# CFL : Riders win by a rouge. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 30, 2017, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650 "2017-09-30T15:56:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650/21 "2017-10-01T17:11:04Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > There was a Grey Cup game no less a long time ago that ended in a similar way except that it was punted out the end zone a second time and when the original kicking team’s player fielded it the opposing was called for no yards. A second field goal attempt was successful, so it wasn’t a rouge and the margin was 3 points. > > Has there ever been a 1-0 game? Apparently not, but this season there’s been a game where a team [scored one point.](https://www.cfl.ca/2017/07/30/recap-calgary-60-hamilton-1/) ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650/22 "2017-10-01T19:31:44Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Rather than talking about scoring on a missed field goal, the better way to put it is that the entire end zone is a goal. If you kick it through the goal post, it’s automatically three points. If you kick it anywhere else in the goal area, you get a point, unless the defenders run it out. Does this mean the ball has to end up in the end zone? The kicker can’t just kick the ball clear out of the back of the end zone for a point? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650/23 "2017-10-01T19:38:04Z")
> [@Ponch8](#): > > Does this mean the ball has to end up in the end zone? The kicker can’t just kick the ball clear out of the back of the end zone for a point? As I understand it, that would be a single on a missed field goal attempt, but not on a kickoff. It sounds like singles are only awarded on kickoffs when the receiving team fields the ball, but isn’t able to successfully run the ball out of the end zone. Bear in mind that, with the end line of the end zone being 20 yards behind the goal posts in Canadian football, if a missed field goal is going to go out of bounds, it’s going to be a short field goal (on which modern kickers have a very high – usually around 90% or more – conversion rate). On a longer field goal, which is going to have a lower chance of being good, it’s considerably less likely that the kicker will have been able to hit it hard enough to get the 20 additional yards to get through the end zone. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650/24 "2017-10-01T22:36:23Z")
> [@Ponch8](#): > > Does this mean the ball has to end up in the end zone? The kicker can’t just kick the ball clear out of the back of the end zone for a point? I don’t know the rule, but watch the video **kenobi 65** posted. It looks like the initial kick is headed out of the back of the end zone, but a receiving player jumps up to prevent that and keep it in bounds. Based on that, I’d have to guess that had the ball gone out it would have been a point for the kicking team. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650/25 "2017-10-01T23:51:28Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t know the rule, but watch the video **kenobi 65** posted. It looks like the initial kick is headed out of the back of the end zone, but a receiving player jumps up to prevent that and keep it in bounds. Based on that, I’d have to guess that had the ball gone out it would have been a point for the kicking team. Correct. A kick that crosses the goal line and then goes out of bounds is a rouge. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650/26 "2017-10-02T00:23:20Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Rouge (like the color), not rogue (like the scoundrel), though the term, in Canadian football, is used interchangeably with “single,” which seems to be what’s more commonly used, IME. I agree, though the term “rouge” is well enough known to have made The Simpsons. In an early episode, Flanders invites the Simpson family to a backyard barbecue. Homer doesn’t want to go, so he claims that he has something more important to do. So what is so important to Homer? Turns out that it’s watching the CFL draft on TV, from which we hear the TV announcer say, “And Saskatchewan scored three rouges last season…” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650/27 "2017-10-03T02:31:05Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Every…single…time I see or hear about Canadian football I am ALWAYS reminded of this: [http://southpark.cc.com/clips/o80ogb/oh-canada](http://southpark.cc.com/clips/o80ogb/oh-canada) I’ve gone there a few times but it doesn’t take me to a specific clip? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cfl-riders-win-by-a-rouge/797650.md?page=1)