# Challenge! Who is the man sitting with all the stars on Johnny Carson? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 30, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321 "2014-04-30T00:42:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/981 "2015-04-21T15:34:02Z")
> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#): > > Well, yeah, but I have it on very good authority that that listing was the result of this thread. Very. Good. Authority. Top Men added it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/982 "2015-04-21T15:40:49Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > I think **Maserschmidt** should be the first nominee for the 2015 Vashbul Memorial Research Award. > [@Vashbul](#): > > I’m not dead. > > I’m getting better. > [@TriPolar](#): > > Oh man! Vashbul was banned? He should have been given a pass for his legendary find her. Alley Dweller turned out to be prescient! ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/983 "2015-04-21T16:40:42Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Top Men added it. Who? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/984 "2015-04-21T19:02:21Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > Who? > > 😃 Top. Men. ---
**Author:** ![Amagi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9d8465/32.png) [@Amagi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amagi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/985 "2017-05-01T18:44:43Z")
> **["The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" Episode dated 11 November 1970 (TV...](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3731662/)** > > Episode dated 11 November 1970: With Johnny Carson, Ed McMahon, Doc Severinsen, James Brolin. All the people listed in your initial post were guests on the Johnny Carson Show of 11 November 1970. Al Traina is also included as a guest on that date. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/986 "2017-05-01T19:03:03Z")
The ‘mystery’ was solved 3 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/987 "2017-05-01T19:04:47Z")
> [@Amagi](#): > > ["The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" Episode dated 11 November 1970 (TV Episode 1970) - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3731662/) > > All the people listed in your initial post were guests on the Johnny Carson Show of 11 November 1970. > Al Traina is also included as a guest on that date. [No](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17371785&postcount=808) [shit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17566061&postcount=962)! [Seriously](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18303125&postcount=976)? Or as someone wiser than me said: > [@fisha](#): > > … just read the entire thread next time before you post. Seriously. > > Weren’t you the least bit curious what the first twenty pages contained? ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/988 "2017-05-01T19:43:15Z")
[Zombie facepalm](https://dakiniland.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/toht-facepalm-jeff-robertson.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/989 "2017-05-01T20:19:53Z")
And by the way, that IMDb page did not exist when this thread was made. The fact that the particular _Tonight_ episode was not written up anywhere accessible online, was the reason for the thread in the first place. (I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the page was created by people who referenced the thread itself.) eta: The perils of not reading the entire thread: I see that Earl Snake-Hips Tucker said the same thing, lo those many years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Clothes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Clothes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothes)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/990 "2018-08-12T17:52:29Z")
Just tiptoeing in here to post a new, updated link to the original image that solved the mystery, as posted by (the now-banned) Vashbul (me) back in Post 808. The old link expired when image-hoster Postimage did something that made it go away - but a little URL tweaking got it back. [https://postimg.cc/image/43tb3y5mp/](https://postimg.cc/image/43tb3y5mp/) ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/991 "2018-08-12T18:42:26Z")
Pretty sure that’s Al Traina. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/992 "2018-08-12T19:40:45Z")
> [@Clothes](#): > > Just tiptoeing in here to post a new, updated link to the original image that solved the mystery, as posted by (the now-banned) Vashbul (me) back in Post 808. The old link expired when image-hoster Postimage did something that made it go away - but a little URL tweaking got it back. > > [https://postimg.cc/image/43tb3y5mp/](https://postimg.cc/image/43tb3y5mp/) Man, I had such a crush on Karen Valentine back then. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/993 "2018-08-12T20:04:28Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Man, I had such a crush on Karen Valentine back then. Who didn’t? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/994 "2018-08-12T20:39:12Z")
Count me in too. I knew a young woman in the 70s who I thought looked like her. She got pissed when I said so because she didn’t think Karen Valentine was attractive. :eek: Hah! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/995 "2018-08-12T21:18:46Z")
> [@Clothes](#): > > … as posted by (the now-banned) Vashbul (me) … Sigh. How can someone be smart enough to solve the mystery that foxed other people, yet manage to shoot himself in the foot like this? Shame he had to get himself banned multiple times. Could have been a useful member. I’m gonna guess that Vashbul was also a sock for a previously banned poster. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321/996 "2018-08-12T21:36:22Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Sigh. How can someone be smart enough to solve the mystery that foxed other people, yet manage to shoot himself in the foot like this? > > Shame he had to get himself banned multiple times. Could have been a useful member. I’m gonna guess that Vashbul was also a sock for a previously banned poster. …why wouldn’t he _already_ be back, as a useful member? The story is, he got banned, and shrugged himself up a new ID a year and a half ago, and now mentioned it and got that one banned, and he — presumably still recalls both of the items he’s now shown knowledge of, shrugging up IDs and being useful? Have I got that right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/challenge-who-is-the-man-sitting-with-all-the-stars-on-johnny-carson/687321.md?page=49)