# Champion-of-Truth and his "sources" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113 "2011-02-12T07:22:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/41 "2011-02-12T17:59:07Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Well since idiots like Gigobuster, Capt Amazing and Morgenstern keep asking the same questions which Ive already addressed, No, you haven’t. > [@](#): > > As for the rest of you who are simply posting half-witted drivel, I got better things to do with my time. > [/COLOR] No, you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/42 "2011-02-12T17:59:27Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > I got better things to do with my time. You mean you’re going back to Mom for the cookie, like I told you to? Good boy. _pats head_ ETA: Aren’t they cute when they try to talk like real humans? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/43 "2011-02-12T17:59:33Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > As for the rest of you who are simply posting half-witted drivel, I got better things to do with my time. That would be posting quarter-witted drivel, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/44 "2011-02-12T18:05:23Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > … I got better things to do with my time… Champion-of-whatever… Total Posts: 109 Posts Per Day: 60.84 faptard. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/45 "2011-02-12T18:18:25Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Well since idiots like Gigobuster, Capt Amazing and Morgenstern keep asking the same questions which Ive already addressed, I won’t waste time answering their idiotic questions. That is funny, I did not ask questions, I only reported on how ignorant you are in your say so’s, but claiming that I asked questions is clearly demonstrated to be a stupid thing to say from your part. > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > As for Abercrombie, yes, they did retract the exact wording that he can’t find the actual birth certificate, but he did say that: > > "“It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down.” > So it’s another case of “Trust me, because someone supposedly knows someone who claims they saw a notation written somewhere.” > > Note that he did NOT say that they found the original birth certificate, but rather a “notation” about Obama’s birth. > > Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have “political implications” for the next presidential election “that we simply cannot have.” [COLOR=#000000] > He also stated that the birth certificate problem will present “issues” in the next election that “We simply can’t have”. > > I’m sure he means that it’s going to disqualify his buddy Obama from running again. So, for all your tap dancing it is clear that you were wrong regarding what Abercrombie said, as you claimed early. That is plenty of evidence to show all how gullible you are regarding the sources you use, and everyone can see how you chickened out when you avoided dealing with the lies World Net Daily has peddled and continues to peddle. And, no, it is not only me but the remaining 2 branches of the government that will not disqualify Obama from running again, it remains a dream of cranks and nuts like you as many right wingers can even tell you. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/46 "2011-02-12T18:36:47Z")
BTW, to show all how discredited anyone like COT and World Net Daily are one just has to look at the “respect” many of the stars of the right wing media have for the birthers: > **[The right bails on Birthers - Salon.com](https://www.salon.com/2009/07/28/conservative_birthers/)** > > O'Reilly, Coulter and others call it bunk -- with one, big notable exception I guess COT just does not know how fringe his ideas are becoming even among conservatives. And yes, he is even a willful ignorant that in the courts and even in the legislative branch of government, the idea that Obama could be disqualified has been demolished already. > [@](#): > > **Though the House just voted unanimously to affirm that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii** , conservative members of the U.S. Congress have played a significant role in making sure the allegations about President Obama’s birth certificate remain in the news. But it’s been pundits like CNN’s Lou Dobbs who have done the most to fan doubts about Obama’s citizenship by giving airtime to proponents of easily debunked myths. > > However, some of the conservative movement’s most notorious and recognizable media personalities haven’t jumped on the Birther crazy train. On Monday, Bill O’Reilly joined those media conservatives – like Ann Coulter, who dissed them on Friday – who’ve bailed on the Birthers. Here’s a list of notables who have either spoken out against the Birthers or who at least have kept quiet about the issue recently: > [@](#): > > The National Review Online has also gotten into the Birther-denunciation act. In an editorial today, the conservative publication’s editorial board comes out staunchly on the side that Obama is an American citizen – though the piece heavily condemns Obama’s policies: > > > [@](#): > > > > Much foolishness has become attached to the question of President Obama’s place of birth, and a few misguided souls among the Right have indulged it. The myth that Barack Obama is ineligible to be president represents the hunt for a magic bullet that will make all the unpleasant complications of his election and presidency disappear … > > > > … Like Bruce Springsteen, he has a lot of bad political ideas;\*\* but he was born in the U.S.A. > > \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/47 "2011-02-12T18:37:02Z")
[This](http://www.bible.ca/bible.htm) was, by far, his best source. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/48 "2011-02-12T18:53:47Z")
(bolding mine) > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > See, you’re pulling a typical **liberal stunt** of attributing something to me that I never said. > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > It’s disturbing how **idiot sheeple liberals** > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > when he ran on a **platform of “transparency”?** > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > other pro-Obama **lackeys** > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > If you’re so **blind and stupid** not to see something fishy going on, they you’re a **pathetic excuse for a citizen**. Wow, I got Nutbar Bingo in one post! ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/49 "2011-02-12T18:59:39Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > …I got better things to do with my time. Oh, look how cute he is as he stomps out of the room with his lower lip stuck out all pouty. I think someone missed his nap. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/50 "2011-02-12T19:04:50Z")
**Champion-of-Truth** 😛 :rolleyes: sounds like someone who is likely to commit a terrorist act, or else commit ‘suicide by cop’. The thing is, if he hates America so much, why doesn’t he leave? ---
**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/51 "2011-02-12T19:07:19Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > So to all you sheeple, why are you so opposed to Obama simply showing his original birth certificate, which he claims exists, which his friends claim exists, and which he claims he FOUND A COPY OF inside one of his books? Quick question, knowing that you’re a dumbshit _birther_, how do your friends and family manage to take you seriously on any other topic? Personally, I have too much self-respect to be friends with a “birther”, but I’m assuming you have at least a couple of friends. How do they bring themselves to converse with you? I mean, if _I_ had a friend who thought that, oh, I dunno…that Sarah Palin was a secret Norwegian, or that Jennifer Lopez was a secret vampire or something, I’d be reluctant to talk to them about _anything_, because if they’re _obviously_ so deluded, and if their bullshit filters are so _obviously_ fucked into a tin bucket, why believe they have anything sensible to say about anything? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/52 "2011-02-12T19:12:52Z")
My best guess would be they keep him around for the entertainment value. When he gets tiresome they tell him the lizard people are coming and he goes back in the basement. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/53 "2011-02-12T19:20:25Z")
> [@Cort](#): > > but I’m assuming you have at least a couple of friends. Cite? Define “friend”. What’s your source, Facebook? ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/54 "2011-02-12T19:48:41Z")
> [@Cort](#): > > or that Jennifer Lopez was a secret vampire or something, It’s Gwyneth Paltrow that’s a secret vampire. I saw on a TV show that she drinks human blood, and it was on wikipedia for a short time, before the liberal underground conspiracy scrubbed that reference from the webpage. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/55 "2011-02-12T19:52:35Z")
She can have every fucking drop. O positive, baby, come and get it. Kick the bucket male preying mantis style, where you don’t know if you’re coming or going. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/56 "2011-02-12T19:55:27Z")
> [@spark240](#): > > **Champion-of-Truth** is a blood-drinking, shape-shifting reptilian from Alpha Draconis. PROVE ME WRONG! Did he also help Glen Beck kill that woman? I’m just asking. If he didn’t, PROVE ME WRONG! By the way, is **Champion-of-Truth** his Kzin name, or is it some sort of weird translation from Kenyan. Also, **CoT** , you dodged the birth-announcement-in-the-paper issue, which I think has you nailed, puddin’ ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/57 "2011-02-12T20:08:20Z")
> [@Cort](#): > > Quick question, knowing that you’re a dumbshit _birther_, how do your friends and family manage to take you seriously on any other topic? Personally, I have too much self-respect to be friends with a “birther”, but I’m assuming you have at least a couple of friends. How do they bring themselves to converse with you? Well, the obvious answer to that one that what you are seeing here is an Internet persona which likely has little or nothing to do with how he actually behaves in real life. I mean, imagine what _that_ would be like: **Convenience store clerk** : “That will be $3.41, please”. **C-of-T** : “You a muslim? You look like a muslim. Isn’t it about time for your afternoon prayer to your Moon God? Mohammed was a pedophile, you know. How does it feel to know you worship a pedophile? Oh, you don’t like what I’m saying? Then go back to Bumfuckistan, terrorist! And when you get there, don’t even think about starting any shit or we’ll nuke all your asses!” **Tire store salesperson** : “Ok, we’ve patched that nail hole and rotated your tires. With tax, that’s $37.50.” **C-of-T** : "Tax? TAX?! I’m not paying any goddam tax until that fucking usurper in the White House is thrown out on his ear! Where’s the birth certificate? Huh? Huh? When the hell are you sheeple gonna wake up and do something about it? **Policeman** : “Licence and registration, please. Are you aware, sir, you were going 45 in a school zone?” **C-of-T** : “Why the hell should I show you my licence and registration? Don’t you believe this is my car? I know you fucking liberals. You’ll just claim that because my licence expired six months ago that it’s no good. Well it is good, it has to be good because it’s got my picture on it and the picture looks just like me, so you can fuck off. I’m not showing you anything until you address me as ‘Mr. **Champion-of-Truth,** Sir’. Bunch of bleeding heart, namby-pamby assholes always refusing to take responsibility anyway. Goddam kids, if they get run over it’s their own fault for not looking.” Well, it’d be kinda fun to see the last one played out. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/58 "2011-02-12T20:13:06Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > Champion-of-Truth and his “sources” Voices in your head don’t count as “sources”. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/59 "2011-02-12T20:43:09Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well, the obvious answer to that one that what you are seeing here is an Internet persona which likely has little or nothing to do with how he actually behaves in real life. I mean, imagine what _that_ would be like: > > **Convenience store clerk** : “That will be $3.41, please”. > > **C-of-T** : “You a muslim? You look like a muslim. Isn’t it about time for your afternoon prayer to your Moon God? Mohammed was a pedophile, you know. How does it feel to know you worship a pedophile? Oh, you don’t like what I’m saying? Then go back to Bumfuckistan, terrorist! And when you get there, don’t even think about starting any shit or we’ll nuke all your asses!” > > **Tire store salesperson** : “Ok, we’ve patched that nail hole and rotated your tires. With tax, that’s $37.50.” > > **C-of-T** : "Tax? TAX?! I’m not paying any goddam tax until that fucking usurper in the White House is thrown out on his ear! Where’s the birth certificate? Huh? Huh? When the hell are you sheeple gonna wake up and do something about it? > > **Policeman** : “Licence and registration, please. Are you aware, sir, you were going 45 in a school zone?” > > **C-of-T** : “Why the hell should I show you my licence and registration? Don’t you believe this is my car? I know you fucking liberals. You’ll just claim that because my licence expired six months ago that it’s no good. Well it is good, it has to be good because it’s got my picture on it and the picture looks just like me, so you can fuck off. I’m not showing you anything until you address me as ‘Mr. **Champion-of-Truth,** Sir’. Bunch of bleeding heart, namby-pamby assholes always refusing to take responsibility anyway. Goddam kids, if they get run over it’s their own fault for not looking.” > > Well, it’d be kinda fun to see the last one played out. Look up ‘FreeMen on the Land’ - that is pretty much how they operate sometimes. And yes, one time when selling something to somebody I did have them rant about the sales tax going to the President’s pockets. Yup. Sales Tax. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/60 "2011-02-12T20:51:15Z")
I note that **Starving Artist** has already befriended him (right before I put the latter on the same list I have the former on). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113.md?page=4)