# Champion-of-Truth and his "sources" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113 "2011-02-12T07:22:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/121 "2011-02-13T20:42:05Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > I said we have no idea where he was born, since we have not seen his long form birth certificate. I did point out that some of his relatives insist he was born in Kenya, but that doesn’t prove anything. Which is why we need a true, long form certificate of birth. Oh Jesus Christ. Give it a rest. Short form, long form, who gives a fuck. > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > If you’re so blind and stupid not to see something fishy going on, they you’re a pathetic excuse for a citizen. Ok, here we go, the “traitor card”. “You guys” spout stupid shit, get mad and change the rules / move the goalposts when you get caught out, and then play the “traitor card”. Just shut the fuck up. I’m gonna steal a trick from “you guys” playbook, which was sure used a lot during the Bush years - if you dare question or cast aspersions on the President, or give anything less than blind unquestioning support, YOU are the damn traitor. Now go choke on that for a while. Short form? Long form? Get the fuck out. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/122 "2011-02-13T20:57:52Z")
Exactly. These birthers and their wanna-be-birther allies keep questioning the president in a time of war. Obviously fifth columnists from the get-go. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/123 "2011-02-13T21:04:24Z")
Well, it’s a matter of patriotic duty. No doubt the same army of Sherlocks would be poring over the documentation of John McCain, had he won. It’s not racial, it’s not partisan… it’s about upholding the Constitution! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/124 "2011-02-13T21:16:36Z")
Long form? You gotta be kidding me. Everyone knows it’s only the extra-long form that really counts. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/125 "2011-02-13T21:18:50Z")
McCain was born on a US military base in Panama. Gotta say, as a brat who knows a bunch of other brats, I’m not sure forbidding us high office is a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/126 "2011-02-13T21:25:55Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Long form? You gotta be kidding me. Everyone knows it’s only the extra-long form that really counts. That’s actually part of the verification: making sure the document is long enough through very thorough measurement. That’s how they got me. I always thought I was an american citizen, but someone didn’t measure the paper cleanly enough and me and every other child born to that ream of paper is technically swedish. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/127 "2011-02-13T22:12:48Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Long form? You gotta be kidding me. Everyone knows it’s only the extra-long form that really counts. Signed with the blood of virgins of course. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/128 "2011-02-13T22:51:33Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Well, it’s a matter of patriotic duty. No doubt the same army of Sherlocks would be poring over the documentation of John McCain, had he won. Careful **Vinyl**. **Sherlock** doesn’t understand what counterfactual means. Oh, I almost forgot. [Cite.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13461030&postcount=32) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/129 "2011-02-14T01:07:40Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > So, wait, once someone gets into the Oval Office, even if he’s really an alien spy from Arcturus 7 pretending to be a Senator from New Jersey, he’s got free reign, because he can give himself the power to look at any document he wants? > > That seems a little odd. Or else I’m misunderstanding. Look, only three presidents in American history were extraterrestrial spies. It’s not worth worrying about. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/130 "2011-02-14T01:09:04Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Signed with the blood of virgins of course. [insert your own crude, sexist joke about the difficulty of finding Hawaiian virgins] ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/131 "2011-02-14T01:09:47Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Look, only three presidents in American history were extraterrestrial spies. It’s not worth worrying about. Are you suggesting that the Alien and Sedation Acts of 1798 were ineffective? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/132 "2011-02-14T01:11:30Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Look, only three presidents in American history were extraterrestrial spies. It’s not worth worrying about. > [@TravisFromOR](#): > > Are you suggesting that the Alien and Sedation Acts of 1798 were ineffective? Hey, don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/133 "2011-02-14T01:38:01Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [insert your own crude, sexist joke about the difficulty of finding Hawaiian virgins] [Any lame ass constuction involving the word _lei_ will be severely punished.] ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/134 "2011-02-14T01:42:41Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [insert your own crude, sexist joke about the difficulty of finding Hawaiian virgins] > [@elucidator](#): > > [Any lame ass constuction involving the word _lei_ will be severely punished.] Except for **lieu** , he’ll pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/135 "2011-02-14T01:45:16Z")
Speaking of pulling it off, what happened to our Guest of Dishonor? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/136 "2011-02-14T01:49:06Z")
No idea–kind of like the interior of his skull, hah! In this thread or one of the other threads where he’s whining about “there being questions of Obama’s eligibility,” someone with a brain said that he wouldn’t be suprised, or words to that effect, if this particular birther were to start saying that Obama wouldn’t’ve been eligible even if he’d been born in the US. Odd thing is that CoT already pulled that stunt. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/137 "2011-02-14T01:51:36Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Speaking of pulling it off, what happened to our Guest of Dishonor? Haven’t seen Anderson Cooper lately either. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/138 "2011-02-14T01:54:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Speaking of pulling it off, what happened to our Guest of Dishonor? He was last on earlier today [claiming](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13462532#post13462532) that all Muslims are the spawn of Satan. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/139 "2011-02-14T02:09:54Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Ibn Warraq, you still need a course in reading comprehension. **Champion-of-Truth** , you need a course in reading comprehension and a course in logic, and in introduction to political science, and many, many other courses. Not that that would help you any because I doubt you could even graduate from high school. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113/140 "2011-02-14T02:18:29Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Haven’t seen Anderson Cooper lately either. Just sayin’. Huh? He was just on 60 Minutes interviewing Lady Gaga. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/champion-of-truth-and-his-sources/571113.md?page=8)