Champlain Towers South in Miami has caved in {2021-06-24}

This will also include life insurance payments for the survivors.

In many cases, the cause of a disaster is not so much climate change per se, as people living in places where they really shouldn’t, like sand dunes and areas extremely prone to forest fires, just because the scenery is pretty. Folks, there are reasons why the Native Americans didn’t even camp on some of those hills.

Glad you have gotten to the bottom of this. You’ve saved investigators a bunch of time and resources! Are you gonna let someone in Fla. know?

There is a bit of a difference since you have no ownership stake in your apartment. In a condo the unit owners also own a share of the common areas (including the structure). In a total loss the insurance proceeds from the master policy would be distributed amongst all the owners in proportion to their share of the condominium, just like had the collapsed not happened their share of the repairs is proportional.

The “owner” of the property is the collective owners of the individual units - not the condo board, not the management company.

I own my apartment and sublet it to a tenant.

Let them know what? It wasn’t climate change or meteorites or a host of other obvious non-events?

Oh, I was confused by “sublet” - I’ve only heard that term used for renting out a property that you are leasing from someone else.

Your condo fees are paying for the master policy that covers the building structure and common areas. There seems to be some confusion in this thread about who actually owns the building and grounds outside the units - it is the unit owners collectively, not some outside party.

No, your conclusion.

Two companies are working together to demo the damaged tower Sunday.

I’ve read about other demolition projects. It usually involves a lot of planning and prepping of the building. This Condo project only has a couple days to prepare. CDI is very experienced and I guess they have the confidence to take this project.

It helps that these two companies have worked together on similar demos. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252556248.html

they don’t have much time to set it up.

Sounds like a very plausible theory.

CDI (Controlled Demolition, Inc.) is risking their reputation in the industry. But they’ll get a lot of recognition if it’s a success.

It’s the 4th of July. Is there a better time for a controlled implosion of a damaged building? :wink:

If it didn’t involve a tragedy it would beg to be timed to the 1812 overture.

Exactly, I think you may have missed my point. But there is one possible exception to your assertion, which is if they were demoing in the bedrock to sink pylons. Bedrock is notorious for carrying vibrations a long way, which is why small earthquakes on the East coast are felt by every-dang-body.

But my original point was that they were actually feeling the beginning of the building failure. But being lay people, and humans, and probably bothered by construction noise, they blamed the sensation on the nearby construction, and missed the warning that might have saved their lives. :cry:

Both companies are very experienced. I’m betting they recognized the impending need and pulled the blueprints with 48 hours to begin their assessment.

They must be confident they can do it. I’ve only seen industrial buildings imploded. Probably a lot more robust and time consuming than this building.

I think they have the confidence; otherwise, I don’t think they would take the job on. Undoubtedly, industrial buildings are more robust and time consuming; but there have been many implosions of Las Vegas (and other locations’) hotels, which I imagine are not much different from condo towers.

If you’ve got the experience, the engineers, the blueprints, and the expertise, I’d imagine you could put together a plan to bring this structure down in a fairly short time.

They’ve imploded a lot of large old buildings in downtown Honolulu. Looked spectacular on the news. Very skillfully done.

Here’s hoping the demolition goes down without a problem.

I know this is trivial in the grand scheme of things, but it must be incredibly frustrating to be one of those residents in the remaining tower unable to recover any of your valuables or keepsakes. All you can do is sit and watch as they get blown to kingdom come.

I imagine there is some pain and grief over that, but for people who fled the falling building - read some of the accounts, they’re pretty dramatic - there’s probably also a gut-level comprehension of why that would be a very bad thing to attempt.