# Change the name of the Washington Redskins

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 30, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674 "2013-05-30T01:47:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/61 "2013-05-30T13:50:02Z")

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> [@RobDog](#):
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> Washington Irvings

The mascot should be a nerdy accountant with Coke-bottle eyeglasses. (My grandfather’s name was Irving and he was a construction worker for the railroad, but still looked like a nerdy accountant with Coke-bottle eyeglasses.)

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/62 "2013-05-30T13:57:40Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> The mascot should be a nerdy accountant with Coke-bottle eyeglasses. (My grandfather’s name was Irving and he was a construction worker for the railroad, but still looked like a nerdy accountant with Coke-bottle eyeglasses.)

Or a guy in a frock coat, a cravat and huge sideburns.

Instead of cheerleaders they could have ladies in crinolines giggling coyly behind their fans.

Halftime entertainment… poetry readings and tea.

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**Author:** ![Bartman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@Bartman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bartman)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/63 "2013-05-30T14:17:28Z")

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Go with something historically associated with DC.

Washington Malarials (Mosquito as mascot)  
Washington Assassins (John Wilkes Booth)  
Washington Pork Barrelers  
Washington Pundits  
Washington Lobyists

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/64 "2013-05-30T14:20:16Z")

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I think they should change the name and that congress should stay out of it. It’s fine to write a letter and “urge” whatever they please, but legislation is over the line. I would prefer the Cleveland baseball club change their logo (the name is ok).

As for new names for the Redskins, how about “the Washinton Monuments?”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/65 "2013-05-30T14:54:04Z")

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The Football Team Which Proudly Honors Our Native American Friends And Doesn’t Exploit or Insult Them in Any Way Whatsoever

Too long?

OK, then:

The Washington Dentures  
The Washington Beltways  
The Potomac Fever  
The L’Enfant Lads  
The D.C. Devastators

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/66 "2013-05-30T14:57:32Z")

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If the baseball team can have a bland, generic, but patriotic name like Washington Nationals, then why not a bland and generic but patriotic name for the football team – Washington Americans.

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**Author:** ![dflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dflower/32/3270_2.png) [@dflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dflower)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/67 "2013-05-30T15:01:41Z")

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Washington Americans!  
Now we can be America’s Team  
not those Cowboys.  
But I would miss the Cowboy and Indians battles

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/68 "2013-05-30T15:03:26Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Move the team. Tell Congress to go fuck itself.

> [@Telemark](#):
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> Wouldn’t matter if they removed the trademark on the name. No matter where they moved the team they’d have the same problem.

So we have a candidate for the first team based outside of the US? The London Redskins anyone? Goodell gets his wish to expand out of the US and Snyder gets to say “Fuck you, Congress! We’re English!”

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/69 "2013-05-30T15:05:20Z")

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Redskin Potatoes!

Michigan has lots of schools with NDN mascot names that have been around a long time. Lots of stone engraved with warrior faces and redskin pride. Choices are limited, oh well, who  
needs a mascot anyway?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/70 "2013-05-30T15:26:53Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> If the baseball team can have a bland, generic, but patriotic name like Washington Nationals, then why not a bland and generic but patriotic name for the football team – Washington Americans.

But the Nationals was the name of a DC baseball team in the 19th century and even when they were the Senators, the press and public used both names for the DC team. It may be a generic name, but it is an old generic name.

For the Redskins how about they become the first team who straight up sells their naming rights for the team itself? They could be the Fedexers, or the Geico Geckos, it would fit right in with Dan Snyder’s vision for the team.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/71 "2013-05-30T15:31:36Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> I doubt that would solve any problems. Many Native American activists object to the use of “Warriors” as a team name and anything else that’s Indian-related.

And those people are retards and should be slapped in the face and then kicked in the balls. If they think only Indians have ever been warriors then they are too retarded to be taken seriously.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/72 "2013-05-30T15:32:13Z")

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In 1988, the Michigan Dept. of Civil Rights recommended that all state schools drop such nicknames, logos, and mascots.

The Chippewa tribe officially approved of Central Michigan’s use of their name.

Eastern Michigan changed from Hurons to Eagles in 1991.

(In 1999, Wayne State changed from Tartars to Warriors, not out of respect for the Tatar people, but because nobody knew what a Tatar/Tartar was)

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/73 "2013-05-30T15:33:44Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> But the Nationals was the name of a DC baseball team in the 19th century and even when they were the Senators, the press and public used both names for the DC team. It may be a generic name, but it is an old generic name.

Still sucks balls, though they may be old, saggy balls.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/74 "2013-05-30T15:33:58Z")

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> [@RobDog](#):
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> Or a guy in a frock coat, a cravat and huge sideburns.
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> Instead of cheerleaders they could have ladies in crinolines giggling coyly behind their fans.
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> Halftime entertainment… poetry readings and tea.

But be very very sure to clearly enunciate anytime you say _Knickerbockers_.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/75 "2013-05-30T15:42:24Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> (In 1999, Wayne State changed from Tartars to Warriors, not out of respect for the Tatar people, but because nobody knew what a Tatar/Tartar was)

Torrance (Calif.) High School is still apparently the Tartars and their logo featured a very cute cartoon Tatar couple – [http://www.ths1973.com/wp-content/uploads/tartars.jpgc](http://www.ths1973.com/wp-content/uploads/tartars.jpgc)

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/76 "2013-05-30T15:45:46Z")

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RobDog:

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> Washington Irvings

I love this, only because it would be great to see them play against the Buffalo Bills.

My suggestion: Washington Bridges. Of course, I’m a New Yorker.

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**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/77 "2013-05-30T16:54:30Z")

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Maroons.

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/78 "2013-05-30T17:17:42Z")

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The Washington Scalpers.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/79 "2013-05-30T17:24:52Z")

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The Washington Regulators

The Washington Red Tape (“The Red Tape held Dallas to two TDs in the first half…”)

The George Washington Carvers (Taking sensitivity over the top)

The Washington Well-Rounded Individuals

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/change-the-name-of-the-washington-redskins/659674/80 "2013-05-30T17:32:03Z")

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No city, no logo, just straight to the point:

“Fuck Dallas”

but something tells me the League wouldn’t go for that.

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