# Changes in Trump since the DNC

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 27, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314 "2024-08-27T15:38:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/41 "2024-08-28T02:55:33Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> What is Trump talking about there?

Maybe he got her mixed up with E. Jean Carroll. They’re both women.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/42 "2024-08-28T02:56:36Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> What? What is Trump talking about there?

My guess is that he was thinking about being impeached following the Jan 6 insurrection, and then Mark Meadows sued Pelosi and the committee who were investigating Trump’s role in the riots. And his addled brain mixed them up.

> **[Mark Meadows is suing the Jan. 6 committee as it moves to hold him in contempt](https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/1062713684/mark-meadows-jan-6-committee-lawsuit-nancy-pelosi)**
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> Mark Meadows is suing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the House Jan. 6 committee, asking a judge to block enforcement of two subpoenas it had issued for himself and Verizon.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/43 "2024-08-28T02:57:00Z")

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But he’s a stable genius!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/44 "2024-08-28T03:20:38Z")

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As far as his appearance goes, one speculation I’ve heard is that after the shooting security/paranoia has prevented him from undergoing his usual cosmetic regime. In any case I expect that the shooting is behind at least _some_ of any changes we see, something like that is going to affect him.

> [@DWMarch](#):
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> The fantasy Trump had about Biden coming into the DNC to retake his nomination is about himself.

I also think it’s a fantasy _for_ himself, because I think a major reason why he’s running for President in the first place was to get revenge on Biden for daring to win against him. Trump _still_ hasn’t given up on rhetoric about the election being “stolen”, he can’t stand the thought of losing and wanted to get one-up again on Biden by winning in 2024 - and he’s having trouble handling the fact that Biden made that permanently impossible by stepping back in favor of Harris. Which IMHO is why Trump keep periodically swinging back to attacking Biden; Biden is the one he _wants_ to win against, not Harris.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/45 "2024-08-28T10:04:02Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> He also does the thing where he tips his head a bit to one side and looks off to one side and then the other while he starts blathering.

Yeah, he acts like there’s someone just off stage who will chime in to confirm that he’s telling the truth.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/46 "2024-08-28T10:31:21Z")

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He’s started selling his stupid NFT trading cards again, so that’s not a change. Or is it?

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/47 "2024-08-28T11:10:48Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Quoted by @PhillyGuy
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> > [@](#):
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> > Crazy Nancy Pelosi sued me.
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> What? What is Trump talking about there?

The only one I could find was from 2017:

[196 Democratic Lawmakers, Including Pelosi, Sue President Trump](https://rollcall.com/2017/06/14/196-democratic-lawmakers-including-pelosi-sue-president-trump/)

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> Nearly 200 Democratic lawmakers, including House Minority Leader [Nancy Pelosi](https://data.rollcall.com/members/35?rel=memberLink), have filed a lawsuit alleging that President Donald Trump has violated the Constitution’s “foreign emoluments clause” by retaining interest in his business empire.
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> Thirty members of the Senate Democratic caucus are among the signatories to the legal effort, along with 166 House members. Sen. [Richard Blumenthal](https://data.rollcall.com/members/32157?rel=memberLink), D-Conn., and House Judiciary Ranking Democrat [John Conyers Jr.](https://data.rollcall.com/members/253?rel=memberLink), are the leaders of the effort.

The Supreme Court [dismissed other emoluments lawsuits against Trump in 2021](https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-ends-trump-lawsuits-df42ef0eec5fa57edf3e294234051d88), but, Googling, I did not find the status of the 2017 case. However, if it was still active, or if Trump had lost, I think we would know it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/48 "2024-08-28T16:33:31Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> He’s started selling his stupid NFT trading cards again, so that’s not a change.

He cut up his debate suit and will give pieces of it on a physical trading card if you buy 15 digital ones. That’s new and seems like a new level of tacky and desperate.

(Though I expect they just bought a roll of cheap navy blue cloth to cut up, or they’re cutting up napkins in Mar-A-Lago.)

> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> The only one I could find was from 2017

Good find.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/49 "2024-08-28T16:35:57Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> He cut up his debate suit and will give pieces of it on a physical trading card if you buy 15 digital ones. That’s new and seems like a new level of tacky and desperate.

For any who are having difficulty keeping perfect track of the seemingly infinite awfulness of Donald J. Trump …

> **[Suit yourself: Trump offers scraps of his indictment outfit for $4,699.53 a pop](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/13/donald-trump-mugshot-suit-for-sale)**
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> Fans of the multiply indicted former president have the chance to own a piece of the blue suit he wore to his arrest in Georgia

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/50 "2024-08-28T16:36:42Z")

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Ah, so he **has** pulled this scam before.

And from the article:

> In any case, buyers seeking a piece of suit should beware. [Business Insider found](https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-selling-pieces-mugshot-suit-read-the-fine-print-2023-12) that the fine print on Collect Trump Cards includes a disclaimer that if delivery of the bit of suit “cannot be fulfilled due to an issue in the manufacturing, production, or delivery”, purchasers will have to settle for a “limited edition Trump NFT” instead.

I wonder what language they’ll use this time.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/51 "2024-08-28T16:39:35Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> He cut up his debate suit and will give pieces of it on a physical trading card if you buy 15 digital ones. That’s new and seems like a new level of tacky and desperate.

I thought for sure this was satire.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/52 "2024-08-28T16:41:08Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I thought for sure this was satire.

An inverse of Poe’s Law might as well be called Trump’s Law.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/53 "2024-08-28T16:44:26Z")

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Haha! Definitely. It’s amazing how much grifting the guy does for a billionaire, and how people empty their pockets to give a billionaire money. What a cult.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/54 "2024-08-28T16:50:13Z")

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He’s back under the gun from DOJ and needs to raise lawyer money, so it comes as no surprise to me. I was expecting him to be more aggressive with the bibles or something, but this is just weird.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/55 "2024-08-28T16:51:01Z")

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It’s time again:

> No one in the world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the plain people.

–H.L. Mencken

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/56 "2024-08-28T16:58:02Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I thought for sure this was satire.

I’ve had that reaction to several stories this week, starting with the Arlington cemetery story. Saw it on Facebook, and thought it just had to be fake.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/57 "2024-08-28T16:59:18Z")

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Oh, the thumbs up picture? Yeah, pretty tasteless, and it turns out to be against the rules, too.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/58 "2024-08-28T17:04:35Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> I’ve had that reaction to several stories this week, starting with the Arlington cemetery story.

For any who didn’t catch that one…

> **[Trump staffers reported over altercation at Arlington cemetery during photo op](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/28/trump-arlington-cemetery-visit-altercation)**
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> Officials at military cemetery say two campaign members ‘verbally abused and pushed’ a representative

> Officials at Arlington national cemetery have filed a report over the behavior of members of Donald Trump’s campaign staff who reportedly shoved and verbally abused an employee during a “crass” photo opportunity for the Republican presidential candidate.

Trump? Crass? Photo-op?? Say it isn’t so!!!

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/59 "2024-08-28T17:07:29Z")

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I’ve been avoiding most anything to do with that scumbag (per my “agita” thread), so hadn’t seen this story. Doesn’t surprise me in the least. This prick cares nothing for veterans or for those who have died in service to the country, and for him to make a big photo op out of it is disgusting in the extreme.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changes-in-trump-since-the-dnc/1006314/60 "2024-08-28T17:08:08Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> Finally, I think they have him drugged for his speeches. I am not up on the latest “enhancements” but I wonder what it could be. Thorazine?

Trump said that Biden would be drugged up during their debate. Ever since then, I’ve figured Trump has been taking drugs for his public appearances.

Trump has a history of projecting his own flaws on to his opponents. It’s like he needs to convince himself that what he’s doing isn’t wrong because the other guy is doing it too. And Trump’s dim-witted enough that he can make up a lie, tell it, and then believe the lie is true.

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