# Changing the arrangement of the numbers on a laptop with a number pad?

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**Created:** [November 17, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-the-arrangement-of-the-numbers-on-a-laptop-with-a-number-pad/1010376 "2024-11-17T21:15:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-the-arrangement-of-the-numbers-on-a-laptop-with-a-number-pad/1010376/1 "2024-11-17T21:15:34Z")

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Hi, everyone. I have a laptop with a ‘full’ keyboard that includes a number pad. I already know how to switch the keyboard layout - I use Dvorak exclusively.

What I want to know is - is there a way to change the layout of the numbers on the number pad? At present, it goes  
789  
456  
123  
0 , and I want it to go  
123  
456  
789  
0 .

Is this possible, or am I SOL? Any help greatly appreciated. Either my google-fu is weak, or this is not a question anybody asks…

Running Windows 10 home, version 22H2 on an HP 15-dw3xxx

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-the-arrangement-of-the-numbers-on-a-laptop-with-a-number-pad/1010376/2 "2024-11-17T21:17:28Z")

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For Windows you need to use a key remapping tool like this:

> **[How to Remap Any Key or Shortcut on Windows 10](https://www.howtogeek.com/710290/how-to-remap-any-key-or-shortcut-on-windows-10/)**
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> Would you like to use a key for another function in Windows 10? Thanks to PowerToys, it's easy to remap keys or even multi-key shortcuts. Here's how.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-the-arrangement-of-the-numbers-on-a-laptop-with-a-number-pad/1010376/3 "2024-11-17T21:20:09Z")

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You’ll also need to read up on how to remove and replace scissor-type keycaps. It’s pretty much ‘pry them off, press them back on’, but a little bit of devil in the details.

> **[How to replace a key on a Scissor Switch Keyboard](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-x65JIRM4E%2F)**
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> How to replace a key on a Scissor Switch Keyboard, it's actually nice and simple! ---NEED MUSIC? We love Epidemic sounds. Check them out and get a free trial...

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-the-arrangement-of-the-numbers-on-a-laptop-with-a-number-pad/1010376/4 "2024-11-17T21:21:14Z")

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Oh, I’ve never bothered to do that - I just touch type, and leave the keys where they are.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-the-arrangement-of-the-numbers-on-a-laptop-with-a-number-pad/1010376/5 "2024-11-17T21:21:50Z")

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Ah, okay - a little more effort than I thought it would be, but I’ll look into it.

Many thanks, Stranger!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-the-arrangement-of-the-numbers-on-a-laptop-with-a-number-pad/1010376/6 "2024-11-17T23:40:12Z")

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Similar question: is there a way to flip the orientation of a virtual keyboard on a tablet to make it more lefty? For example the location of the Enter / Return key forces primary usage by the right hand.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/changing-the-arrangement-of-the-numbers-on-a-laptop-with-a-number-pad/1010376/7 "2024-11-18T08:53:23Z")

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There is a left-handed mode option buried in the options for GBoard on Android, but I am not sure if it affects the whole keyboard - it’s under ‘one-handed mode’ so it may only affect a subset of the functions
