Chaos theory and Evolution

Factual Questions
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MC Master of Ceremonies
Evolution is a biological theory unconnected with cosmology

A show on PBS some years ago about the milkyway introduced me to galactic evolution. It sounded good to me and still does. Why should we be special?
RickJay
…would not prevent the universe as a whole from experiencing net entropy, would it?

No, but we would still be in a closed system. So r u saying that an area within a closed system could be an exception?? Would this not violate: “The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that in an enclosed system entropy (“disorder”) can only increase.” ??
Smeghead
Read “At Home in the Universe” by Stuart Kauffman

I will.
Hari Seldon
I agree and u may be right.
FriendRob
Kinda like just moving the air as u landed and left(u never went out of tour time machine) changed something so there was no human future to go back to, so u and your time machine disappeared.

Asimov wrote one two, and others I am sure.
tourbot
The idea that universe evolves raises a few questions:
1)The universe evolves??
2)The universe is a living organism???
3)What changes to it’s ecological niche does it adapt to, or what are the new niches it moves to?
4)What other universes is it in competition for survival with?
5)How does it pass traits to its offspring?
6)Wait a minute… what offspring??
7)The universe… evolves???

Don’t get stuck in the Earth animal/plant scenario.
2-what is your definition of life? I reject the one that I was taught in grade school which included the ability to product in kind. I asked the teacher what about a jackass, it can not reproduce. Get my point. If it evolves, it is alive - I say. how’s that?
3-Who knows for sure? U would need to step outside and view the whole thing to see.
4-ditto
5-see response #2
6-yup !

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That’s a horse of a different color. Evolution is usually shorthand for Biological Evolution. While the term evolution can be used to describe other things, it doesn’t mean the same thing. For our purposes here, evolution involves biological entities, reproduction, and competition for resources. None of these apply to cosmology. The creation of earth has essentially nothing to do with the process of Biological Evolution.

Exactly, local increase of order while total disorder increases is perfectly in keeping with the Second Law. When you freeze water into an ice cube, order increases locally (for the ice cube) but total order of the universe decreases (heat output from the freezer). That’s the way the universe works.

Most people who argue the points about the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics don’t really understand it. Try this article for a good explanation: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/thermo/probability.html

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I see successful life forms/adaptations as those that lie in the strange attractor regions of a series created by iterations of the “variable” of DNA being fed back into the nonlinear “equation” of the environment. The purely deterministic components are the various physical constants of the universe. In order for evolution to occur, the universe can neither be too ordered or too destructively random so I think the universe being chaotic is just about right.

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I am now.