# Characters who seem like sweet lil bunnies but are actually psycho whackjobs

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 6, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562 "2009-05-06T17:46:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/41 "2009-05-07T12:22:30Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> Agreed - she brain-rapes her own girlfriend, for Ford’s sake. That’s pretty cold.
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> ETA: I’d still hit that, of course, if she asked. (I’d be terrified not to.)

I would shag her absaloutly rigid even if she didn’t ask …and not out of fear.

In fact I’ve gone all hot and bothered and think that I’ll need to lie down for a little while.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/42 "2009-05-07T12:25:08Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Steve Douglas from _My Three Sons_: the genial t.v. father archetype whose wife and children mysteriously disappear as the show goes on. Compulsive serial killer, or just in it for the ‘double indemnity’ insurance claims?

Bonanza’s Ben Cartwright has him beat. His three wives all died, he keeps his grown sons living at home, and any girl they hook up with manages to die.

That’s beyong plausible and goes into psycho whackjob land.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/43 "2009-05-07T13:06:53Z")

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This contains spoilers for Garret novel _Old Tin Sorrows_ :

Jennifer. She’s all small and naive and young and pretty; and it turns out that all through the novel she’s been systematically murdering ex-Marines. Including one she strangled with a “Kef Sidhe strangling cord”. and another crushed by a suit of armor shoved off a balcony. Plus, she indulged in some arson, and apparently killed some more before the book started. She also tried to murder Garret in his sleep with an axe at one point ( he’d sneakily stuck an old suit of armor in the bed instead, and found the axe embedded in it ).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/44 "2009-05-07T13:25:55Z")

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The spinster Brewster sisters in _Arsenic and Old Lace_. Sweet little old ladies with a basement full of corpses.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/45 "2009-05-07T15:10:17Z")

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If Abby from NCIS suddenly went on a killing spree, would anyone be surprised?  
Or Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang?

ETA: Stepford husbands, and Guy Wodehouse, Rosemary’s husband (but NOT the father of her baby). “I sold my wife to the devil so I could get a show business break.”

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/46 "2009-05-07T15:26:08Z")

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While not psychotically evil (perhaps), Ryan on **the Office** first appeared as the put-upon office temp who at least seemed like a normal guy having to suffer through dealing with an office full of wack-jobs. Every once in a while, we get a hint that he might not be as ‘nicey-nice’ as he seems (mostly in his on-again/off-again relationship with Kelli.) Then at the end of s.3, he gets revealed to be a back-stabbing, self-centered, grade A asshole. It was a great switcheroo.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/47 "2009-05-07T15:30:45Z")

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I would say that any female character is a sweet little bunny just waiting to become a psycho wackjob. They’re females, after all.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/48 "2009-05-07T15:52:57Z")

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Another one from Ira Levine: Bud Corliss from his first book “A Kiss Before Dying.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/49 "2009-05-07T16:37:28Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> What of Butters, then?

He has a better grip on reality and basic decency than most people in that town, despite what his parents and Cartman have put him through. I vote No.

There was a thread not long ago about whether Butters or Milhouse was more likely to become a psycho killer.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/50 "2009-05-07T16:43:36Z")

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I love you, Pumpkin.  
I love you, Honey Bunny.  
All right, everybody be cool, this is a robbery!  
Any of you fucking pricks move, and I’ll execute every motherfucking last one of ya!

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/51 "2009-05-07T16:49:08Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> If Abby from NCIS suddenly went on a killing spree, would anyone be surprised?

Would anyone be able to tell? Remember Abby told McGee (last night, in fact) that she is one of the only people in the world who could “kill [him] and leave no forensic evidence”.

Agree on Willow, much as I love her. From the second season on, she saw magic mainly as a tool for getting her way. It just got worse as she went on.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/52 "2009-05-07T16:54:24Z")

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Anybody who could do what she did at band camp is worth worrying about.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/53 "2009-05-07T16:55:27Z")

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Sheila Keefe on “Rescue Me”, as long as she stays medicated.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/54 "2009-05-07T17:41:36Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> People keep mentioning Willow, but what about her alter ego, Lilly on “How I Met Your Mother”?

I think people started mentioning Willow because of the who started the thread rather than any outstanding nuttiness on her part. 😉

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/55 "2009-05-07T17:44:36Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Ilsa Lund from _Casablanca_: “Oh, Rick! I can’t fight it anymore. I ran away from you once. I can’t do it again. Oh, I don’t know what’s right any longer. You have to think for both of us. For all of us.” Are we seriously expected to believe that she is this much of a gormless bimbo, or is she actually a _femme fatale_ beguiling Richard Blaine into throwing away his cafe and fortune so that she and her meal ticket husband can make it to America while Rick runs for his life to Brazzaville? What a serious cockup. David Mamet needs to remake this film in the same vein as _The Spanish Prisoner_ and _Heist_. Campbell Scott as Rick, Ricky Jay as Ugarte, Danny DeVito as Capt. Renault, and Ed O’Neill as Major Strasser. Joe Mantegna plays Sam in a cameo. Rebecca Pidgeon can play Ilsa; even she can’t be more wooden than Ingrid Bergman in the role. Go ahead, hate on me for not digging _Casablanca_, but you know it’s true.

Oh, you are so right. I agree with you 100%…though it’s like saying you kick babies for fun.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/56 "2009-05-07T17:59:18Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I think people started mentioning Willow because of the who started the thread rather than any outstanding nuttiness on her part. 😉

Nah. Even if you take out my incredulous first post, you have **silenus** mentioning her in the second. This is just a variant of Godwin’s Law specific to this board – as a Cafe Society discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Buffy or Willow approaches 1.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/57 "2009-05-07T18:33:18Z")

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[_Serial Mom_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Mom) of course – psycho-in-bunny’s-clothing is what the whole story is **about** – and both protagonists in [_Eating Raoul._](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_Raoul)

[TVTropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage) ought to have a trope-page on this, but I can’t seem to find one.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/58 "2009-05-07T18:40:27Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Nah. Even if you take out my incredulous first post, you have **silenus** mentioning her in the second. This is just a variant of Godwin’s Law specific to this board – as a Cafe Society discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Buffy or Willow approaches 1.

The way Wesley Wyndham-Price’s name comes up immediately when the thread topic is “skillful character development,” eh?

:: shrugging ::

No way to prove it at this point.

Anyway, I still don’t think Willow is _mentally unbalanced_ in the way that Greg House and Adrian Monk clearly are, and in the way that Alison Cameron clearly is when you spend more than two days watching her. I think she’s _evil_ but doesn’t like to admit it.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/59 "2009-05-07T18:43:04Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Ilsa Lund from _Casablanca_: “Oh, Rick! I can’t fight it anymore. I ran away from you once. I can’t do it again. Oh, I don’t know what’s right any longer. You have to think for both of us. For all of us.” Are we seriously expected to believe that she is this much of a gormless bimbo, or is she actually a _femme fatale_ beguiling Richard Blaine into throwing away his cafe and fortune so that she and her meal ticket husband can make it to America while Rick runs for his life to Brazzaville?

I always took the “gormless bimbo” angle – or, rather, “woman befuddled by a love triangle”; never got the vibe she was trying to manipulate Rick – she looks perfectly and entirely surprised when Rick announces he’s not boarding the plane with her. (Actually, BTW, they wrote and filmed several alternate endings, including one where Rick gets the girl and one where **she** ditches **him.)**

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-who-seem-like-sweet-lil-bunnies-but-are-actually-psycho-whackjobs/495562/60 "2009-05-07T18:47:57Z")

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Well, by Buffy, I meant the extended universe of the show, and Willow seems to be this board’s favorite character.

Actually, just change Buffy and Willow to Joss Whedon. Firefly comes up just as often, and I’m sure Dollhouse will eventually find its footing as another “OMG FOX SUX” favorite despite its current tepidness.

And I still don’t believe Willow is evil, but short-sighted and impulsive. Mileage varies, though.

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