# Characters you used to like but now hate **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 15, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447 "2009-01-15T17:12:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447/21 "2009-01-16T16:14:36Z")
> [@Tijuana\_Golds](#): > > Funny that Frank Miller _could_. Today he is among Batman’s worst offenders. **One of** the worst offenders? That’s like calling Stalin one of the 20th century’s worst murderers. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Batman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@The\_Batman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Batman)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447/22 "2009-01-16T18:59:54Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] I was really just talking about DKR and Year One. Strikes Again was embarassingly bad and I haven’t read any of his other Batman stuff. [/QUOTE] I wouldn’t bother if I were you, All-Star Batman & Robin is written by Miller and is considered part of of DKR’s continuity but is almost as bad as DKR2. [QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer ] One of the worst offenders? That’s like calling Stalin one of the 20th century’s worst murderers. [/QUOTE] He wasn’t one of the 20th century’s worst murderers? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447/23 "2009-01-16T19:07:23Z")
> [@Tijuana\_Golds](#): > > I wouldn’t bother if I were you, All-Star Batman & Robin is written by Miller and is considered part of of DKR’s continuity but is almost as bad as DKR2. > > He wasn’t one of the 20th century’s worst murderers? He was THE worst. No qualifier necessary. Likewise, Miller is the worst Batman writer. The brilliance of _Dark Knight Returns_ and _Year One_ cannot compensate for _Dark Knight Strikes Back_ and _All-Star Batman & Robin_. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447/24 "2009-01-16T19:32:49Z")
Ted on _How I Met Your Mother_. First impression: “Oh, he’s the ultimate everyman! He’s what Ross used to be on Friends - an identifiable, sensitive nice guy, who scores really hot chicks.” Second impression: “Oh, he’s just annoying. He’s horribly naive, pedantic to a fault, and reminds you of that creepy obsessive guy in college who constantly talked about chivalry (and who declared every girl he was going out with as his “girlfriend” about 6 weeks too early and freaked them out to the brink of restraining order).” ---
**Author:** ![AmericanMaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AmericanMaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmericanMaid)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447/25 "2009-01-16T21:10:04Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Ted on _How I Met Your Mother_. > > First impression: “Oh, he’s the ultimate everyman! He’s what Ross used to be on Friends - an identifiable, sensitive nice guy, who scores really hot chicks.” > > Second impression: “Oh, he’s just annoying. He’s horribly naive, pedantic to a fault, and reminds you of that creepy obsessive guy in college who constantly talked about chivalry (and who declared every girl he was going out with as his “girlfriend” about 6 weeks too early and freaked them out to the brink of restraining order).” I second. In fact, a lot of shows where I am supposed to like the lead, I wind up hating them. Grey’s Anatomy - never liked Meredith with her mopiness, lack of self awareness, and inability to go with the flow Scrubs - ditto to all the reasons mentioned above Buffy - loved Buffy for a while but by season 7 she was very tiresome. Fringe - I like Pacey and Walter better than the chick. Private Practice - Addison sucks, judgmental, ignores doctor/patient confidentiality, and has the maturity level of a 12 year old. Battlestar Galactica - I used to have a huge girlcrush on Starbuck but then they turned her into a Mary Sue. ---
**Author:** ![Anduinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Anduinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduinel)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447/26 "2009-01-16T21:56:50Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > Don’t hate Nightcrawler, hate Chuck Austen. Oh, I do, but that storyline ripped up a good chunk of Nightcrawler’s past stories and spat on them and the fact that it’s been allowed to stand, plus Nightcrawler being mostly reduced to one aspect of his character in recent years, has ruined the character for me. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447/27 "2009-01-16T22:40:59Z")
Pretty much anyone on Friends, but particularly Monica. She changed from compulsive but still pretty cool to shrill harpy. I can’t watch reruns of the early shows without remembering how she ends up and cringing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/characters-you-used-to-like-but-now-hate/481447.md?page=1)