# Charity stops at Christians **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 9, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576 "2010-12-09T20:20:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/81 "2010-12-10T15:50:37Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > So does USA. > > We have met the enemy, and they are us. So does Canada. Which explains why we don’t send aid to the godless Canadians. ---
**Author:** ![Leon497](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Leon497](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leon497)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/82 "2010-12-10T15:51:47Z")
Jose…Dahhhhh, England, Church of England, Anglican and all that, and I have also heard Vatican has a church in its government and there are lots more, wow… ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/83 "2010-12-10T15:52:17Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > Well let’s see–to answer it should be obvious I was referring to terrorism AGAINST THE USA _Oh you are just too sweet. Yes you are. Yes you are, you ickle sweetie. Who’s a good idiot? You’re a good idiot. Yes you are. Yes you are. Have a biscuit._ I have decided that your new name is Mr Topsy. I think you will look best in a little sailor costume. I have considered missred’s suggestion to have you spayed or neutered, but I think this would be missing an opportunity. As can be seen from examples like Paris Hilton, interest in pure pedigree imbeciles has never been higher. I believe there could be good money to be made from breeding imbeciles and selling them to collectors, and I feel certain that you are a prize specimen. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/84 "2010-12-10T15:53:56Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > Jose…Dahhhhh, England, Church of England, Anglican and all that, and I have also heard Vatican has a church in its government and there are lots more, wow… The UK, with the Church of England incorporated into the constitution, produced the IRA. And the Animal Liberation Front too. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/85 "2010-12-10T15:56:11Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > Jose…Dahhhhh, England, Church of England, Anglican and all that, and I have also heard Vatican has a church in its government and there are lots more, wow… Since you’re too stupid to operate Wikipedia, I’ll do this for you: [List of state-established religions](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state-established_religions). Still waiting for an explanation of WTF this has to do with anything, **Leon**. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/86 "2010-12-10T15:58:18Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > I have decided that your new name is Mr Topsy. I think you will look best in a little sailor costume. Can we give him a pair of cymbals and make him dance and jump? Oh pleeeease, I promise to feed him and walk him and everything! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/87 "2010-12-10T16:01:26Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Can we give him a pair of cymbals and make him dance and jump? Oh pleeeease, I promise to feed him and walk him and everything! I wouldn’t get too close - he’s probably got worms, given that he seems to have been dragging his ass across the keyboard and posting the resultant shitsmears here. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/88 "2010-12-10T16:06:38Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > Of course everyone is lying now in a get the Christian riot. Where did I say not to give to Burma, or that it is a Muslim country, I remember using Indonesia as an example. Why? Because I have seen ads for Indonesia aid, not because I think it is Burma. If you will read what I said it was to do charity near home first, in the USA if you can or at least in Mexico where plenty are dirt poor. I think most see that my statement was not that there had never been bad folks in a Christian country. > > The discussion on Burma went on to say they can be shot if seen and that even the web site had registration issues about legality and so on, this sure seems to make my point that why not give closer to home where there is some oversight? To existing and known good charities who file reports here in USA (assuming you are in the USA). > > They mentioned that medicines are indeed stolen by the bad guys and re-sold, just as I had predicted as well. The discussion there just made my point. I have underlined some elements which, even reread dont make any sense however you put them. Christ, do you use your own shit as your grey matter? ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/89 "2010-12-10T16:08:11Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > 1. People speak English outside the greater Chicago area. I’m not convinced that whatever is spoken in the greater Chicago area is actually English. Such a funny accent to my delicate Boston ears. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/90 "2010-12-10T16:13:22Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > I do not want to give aid to those attacking the USA or shooting our soldiers, and the period is 2001 and later for that test. Clear now folks? Speaking as a Christian… how are we supposed to witness to the world if we only take care of our own? Remember the Great Commission - “Go ye therefore and teach ALL nations…” ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/91 "2010-12-10T16:17:09Z")
[Look!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhGL8w-ETN8) ---
**Author:** ![Mapache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58956e/32.png) [@Mapache](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mapache)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/92 "2010-12-10T16:17:27Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > Jim, Well that one is so easy, see none of the Christian countries have been a problem regarding terror from their local native home born population, while all of the problem comes from the others, therefore aiding Christians is a lot safer bet to not end up aiding terror. It is just that simple. Come up with as many Christians doing terror to us as non-Christians and I will be glad to modify my position. There may be an occasional nut case, like Oklahoma had, but in the other places you have whole church groups and leaders planning terror and making announcements they want to do the terror. I want to help the other kind of folks. About half an hour ago I was watching the news on Oaxaca’s Channel 9. A Christian terrorist group called La Familia in Michoacan burned a bunch of trucks and buses, and exchanged fire with police and fire fighters just last night. Kindly learn a little about what you’re talking about before you spout off, OK? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/93 "2010-12-10T16:32:23Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > So does USA. > > We have met the enemy, and they are us. It’s not the same. Our A follows a C. A C for Christ. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/94 "2010-12-10T16:36:59Z")
Likes to judge, but does not care for being judged? Interesting. No wonder it’s so hard being a Christian. Get your head out of your ass already. The bombings in Indonesia were an attempt to militant-ize a currently non militant Muslim country. It didn’t work, Indonesia, by population the largest Muslim country, remains pro America, anti militant, anti terrorist and yet, still Muslim. Yeah, why would you want to help them, much better to simply turn your back on their suffering as they are a different faith. You **are** what’s wrong with Christianity today. **You** are the reason people are falling away from the churches in droves, mate. Because they don’t want to be lumped in with bigoted, judgmental asshole cafeteria Christian’s like you. Giving to charity, but passing judgment on worthiness. Way to pick and choose which of ‘God’s words’ to abide. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/95 "2010-12-10T16:55:25Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > _Oh you are just too sweet. Yes you are. Yes you are, you ickle sweetie. Who’s a good idiot? You’re a good idiot. Yes you are. Yes you are. Have a biscuit._ > > I have decided that your new name is Mr Topsy. I think you will look best in a little sailor costume. > > I have considered missred’s suggestion to have you spayed or neutered, but I think this would be missing an opportunity. As can be seen from examples like Paris Hilton, interest in pure pedigree imbeciles has never been higher. I believe there could be good money to be made from breeding imbeciles and selling them to collectors, and I feel certain that you are a prize specimen. I’m a fan of the Final Fantasy game series, and Squall Leonhart is the main character in FF8. He occasionally has to dress in a uniform, like so: [http://misc.thefullwiki.org/SeeD](http://misc.thefullwiki.org/SeeD) . It’s not quite a sailor costume, but it’s close. The female uniform is closer to a sailor suit. ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/96 "2010-12-10T16:58:45Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > I have decided that your new name is Mr Topsy. Are you sure he’ll be able to learn the new name? After all, it’s **two** whole syllables :eek: ETA: Not to mention the “Mr” part, as well… ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/97 "2010-12-10T17:02:46Z")
> [@Leon497](#): > > Well I have my opinion and you yours folks. The only thing I should have said better was terrorism against the USA, such as trying to crash planes, shoot at our soldiers, bomb nightclubs, and doing that because there are Americans there as the goal is the kind of terrorism I was talking about. I thought that obvious but you all can’t fathom that so I will be sure to write at a lower grade level in the future for this audience, agreed. > > Now if anyone can find me a majority Christian country or one with a Christian church in its government officially and that supports terrorism against the USA, let’s hear who that is? Maybe I did miss something. You’re entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/98 "2010-12-10T17:27:57Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I’m a fan of the Final Fantasy game series, and Squall Leonhart is the main character in FF8. He occasionally has to dress in a uniform, like so: [http://misc.thefullwiki.org/SeeD](http://misc.thefullwiki.org/SeeD) . It’s not quite a sailor costume, but it’s close. The female uniform is closer to a sailor suit. Frankly, I refuse to send any charity to Japan in retaliation for having wasted my money on FFVIII. Seriously, does it really matter? If you want to give money in your community, great. If you want to help a national organization, great. If you want to help a charity in another country, be it neighboring or on the other side of the world, great. It’s up to the individual to prioritize where his charitable donations support and it’s possible to both support something in the US and give some cash somewhere else. Leon is both an idiot and an ass. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/99 "2010-12-10T17:56:09Z")
Hey, if you have FFVIII or any related items, I might be willing to buy it. I’ve worn out two copies of the PS game, and I’d love a copy of the PC game (I’ve never had a Pocket Station, so I never got the items in that chocobo game). Meet me in the Marketplace? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576/100 "2010-12-10T18:21:36Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > … moving those goalposts … Nah, not goalpost moving, it’s the [Navin R. Johnson school of terrorism history](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag6DtzRUF5U). CMC fnord! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charity-stops-at-christians/563576.md?page=6)