# Charles D. Stimson you are an Ignorant Asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2007, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836 "2007-01-13T14:44:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/21 "2007-01-17T05:10:46Z")
American Fruit Company, 1960s? Hearst Publishing, Spanish-American War? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/22 "2007-01-17T05:44:13Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] Sure he does; [7 or 8 US Attorneys since december.](http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002347.php) It’s just that the administration’s definition of un-American is different than America’s definition of un-American. [/QUOTE] Heh. I meant The American CEO as in American CEOs in general, rather than the Prez. ---
**Author:** ![Campion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@Campion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Campion)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/23 "2007-01-17T05:52:44Z")
[QUOTE=Muffin] Do top US corporate and commercial firms also usually handle personal criminal matters that are not related to corp/comm.? [/QUOTE] Most top US firms consider themselves “full service” firms. Consequently, they typically have some white collar criminal defense capacity, which means that they could handle personal cirminal matters if they needed/wanted to. For example, and I believe our Chicago lawyers could speak to this better than I could, the Seventh Circuit (based in Chicago) has a pretty healthy pro bono habeas practice, where they farm out to private attorneys appellate work for unrepresented indigent criminals. So it isn’t a stretch for one of the AmLaw 100 to handle Gitmo work. Besides, there’s that whole ethical canon about “defenseless and oppressed.” I guess Stimson skipped that semester in school. ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/24 "2007-01-17T08:15:00Z")
I don’t think this guy is ignorant. He’s smart and knows which side his bread is buttered on. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/25 "2007-01-17T08:32:29Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] Sure he does; [7 or 8 US Attorneys since december.](http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002347.php) It’s just that the administration’s definition of un-American is different than America’s definition of un-American. [/QUOTE] I think there’s a big hairy ass story developing there, but no clue as to what it is… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/26 "2007-01-17T08:42:10Z")
What really galls my ass is this guy _has_ to know…he just has to!..about the guys we turned loose because they probably didn’t have squat to do with terr. I mean, I’m betting if they let them go, they were pretty damn sure! Course, they’re enemies of America _now_, hell, who wouldn’t be! So he knows for a fact that at least some of the arrested were\* entirely\* innocent! What does he figure, they’ve got it all sorted out now? Only the guilty ones remain? And the second thing is calling the firms out by name! WTF? No, really, **WTF?** ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/27 "2007-01-17T08:56:37Z")
[QUOTE=elucidator] What does he figure, they’ve got it all sorted out now? Only the guilty ones remain? **WTF?** [/QUOTE] Sure. It’s not completely and utterly devoid of logic and it suits him to believe it. Why not? ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/28 "2007-01-17T12:34:25Z")
[QUOTE=if6was9] I’m surprised the WSJ jumped right in line (sucked dick) so easily. It is bizness tho. 9-11 hurt the economy so any means necessary… [/QUOTE] I have always liked the WSJ’s analysis of the business and financial sectors, but I never cease to be amazed at their unwavering support of this administration and its policies, even in the face of rising (and even overwhelming) public disapproval. Calvin Coolidge said _“The business of America is business.”_ You’d think that business and democracy are not mutually exclusive, but evidently the WSJ disagrees. Clearly they have no problem abandoning the principles of democracy in favor of the bottom line. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/29 "2007-01-17T15:30:17Z")
[In the Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/16/AR2007011601383.html) > [@](#): > > Regrettably, my comments left the impression that I question the integrity of those engaged in the zealous defense of detainees in Guantanamo. I do not. I am left baffled as to what Stimson _did_ mean by his comments. Was there some point, or did he, and the WSJ, just suffer a brief psychotic break? Without a further explanation, the man is not deserving of public trust. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/30 "2007-01-17T16:56:55Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] Without a further explanation, the man is not deserving of public trust. [/QUOTE] Which begs the question: what possible explanation could exist that would render him deserving of such trust? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/31 "2007-01-17T21:32:18Z")
It _raises_ the question, actually. Nothing personal, btw; I just wasn’t in the mood to allow the incorrect usage to pass unremarked this time. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836/32 "2007-01-17T21:58:34Z")
Luckily, you live in California, where mood altering substances are freely available. Just sayin, is all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-d-stimson-you-are-an-ignorant-asshole/387836.md?page=1)