# Charles Manson Has passed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 20, 2017, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164 "2017-11-20T06:07:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/21 "2017-11-20T14:07:47Z")

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I heard the news this morning. As I was walking to the bus stop, there was a snow flurry. First one of the season.

So I did a Happy Dance in the snow about Charles Manson burning in hell.

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**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/22 "2017-11-20T14:09:42Z")

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Because of him and what he did there became a renewed interest in true crime as a literary genre.

Because of him and what he did the FBI has a BAU and there’s a TV show entitled Criminal Minds.

Because of him and what he did and the information about him already out there, there is a better understanding of what constitutes mental illness as well as criminal insanity.  
I have no pity for him. He wouldn’t have wanted it anyway.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/23 "2017-11-20T14:35:22Z")

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Him and a LOT of other horrible, horrible people. Don’t give Charlie any credit he doesn’t deserve.

He is a good argument for abortion and the death penalty.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/24 "2017-11-20T14:41:11Z")

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Ready the fire and brimstone for this bastard, he’s coming!

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/25 "2017-11-20T14:44:37Z")

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Glad that murderous SOB is gone. It’s interesting to me, as someone who remembers that horror quite vividly, how shocked and horrified everyone was. It was sensational and scary and so completely out of the norm that nobody could quite grasp how people could do something like that. It stayed in the forefront of the news for a long time. Fast forward to today’s world where we practically have the mass murder of the week, and we all move on from it in a matter of days.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/26 "2017-11-20T14:52:25Z")

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I think [Curly Bill Brocius says it best](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA).

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/27 "2017-11-20T14:54:01Z")

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May he rest in…something.  
mmm

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/28 "2017-11-20T16:26:05Z")

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He brings vivid meaning to the phrase, “may he rot in hell.”

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**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/29 "2017-11-20T16:50:58Z")

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I think [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkq7WZTzkLQ) sums it up nicely.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/30 "2017-11-20T17:20:48Z")

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And this morning was “Trash Day”. Coincidence?

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**Author:** ![Skara\_Brae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Skara\_Brae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skara_Brae)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/31 "2017-11-20T17:36:47Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Amazing how many icons of the 60s died too soon, but he made it to 2017.

Ironically, if he hadn’t gone to prison, he’d be long dead by now…

(Not that him going to prison was a bad thing. It undoubtedly saved lives. But you know with the kind of life he had, he’d of crossed the wrong person eventually and gotten murdered himself. Or died of an overdose.)

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**Author:** ![Buttercup\_Smith](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buttercup_smith/32/473_2.png) [@Buttercup\_Smith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buttercup_Smith)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/32 "2017-11-20T17:45:46Z")

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He was not a model prisoner. He had over 100 violations of rules. Good riddance.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/33 "2017-11-20T18:14:18Z")

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I am trying to total up the amount of time Charlie spent in prison or custody over his life.

He was born in 1934. He was first sent to juvenile detention in 1948, and was then transferred to a higher-level institution in 1952 (he raped another boy). AFAICT he was released in 1955, and managed to stay out of prison until 1956 (despite a conviction for auto theft). Then he was in prison until 1958, got out, and then was back inside from 1960-1967. Then in 1969 he did the Tate murders, was arrested, and spent the rest of his life in prison.

So, of his 83 years on the planet, he spent 57 of them indoors. Maybe a bit less - he escaped from juvenile custody about twenty times ([cite](http://www.famous-trials.com/manson/246-chronology)).

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/34 "2017-11-20T18:37:31Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> My wife felt it was so important that she actually had to CALL me. On a PHONE! Now she is calling my mon.
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> A text AFTER calling my mom would have sufficed.
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> (Both the wifey and mom are crazy about serial killers)

I’m not sure I’d get too comfortable if that’s their idea of a good hobby. Every serial killer has to start with somebody. Somebody close to hand would be the easy gateway killing.

Sleep tight ol’ buddy. 🙂

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/35 "2017-11-20T18:41:21Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> May he rest in…something.  
> mmm

Pig manure.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/36 "2017-11-20T18:46:00Z")

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And with only ten years left until his next parole hearing. I had a good feeling about lucky number 13!

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/37 "2017-11-20T19:09:03Z")

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Hm. I guess my production of “You’re A Bad Man, Charles Manson” will have to use an actual actor.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/38 "2017-11-20T19:10:07Z")

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I think about all the $$$ it took to house him, feed him, free attorneys, many hearings and appeals. Not to forget clothing,transportation, and free medical care. It is staggering. And IMO wrong.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/39 "2017-11-20T19:42:26Z")

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Although I still feel that the death penalty is appropriate in selected extreme cases, I also think it would’ve given Manson an easy out. To me, locking the monster in a small(ish) cage for 47 years might have been a harsher sentence and only slightly more humane than outright execution.

In any case, the world is a better place without Chuck Manson.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-has-passed/802164/40 "2017-11-20T19:51:11Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> When I die, I expect to find her laughing?

Blasphemous!

I was gonna write something but it was pretty convoluted and ultimately pointless, as are most thoughts on life and death.

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