# Charles Manson is getting married!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 17, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907 "2014-11-17T23:09:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/61 "2014-11-20T22:35:51Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> It’s reassuring to see that the sanctity of traditional marriage is still intact.

> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> Gay couples still don’t have the right to marry in most states, but a monster serial killer gets a marriage license with no questions asked. Gotta love America.

> [@astorian](#):
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> Find me any fundamentalist Christian who’s celebrating Manson’s wedding, and then we’ll talk.

> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> They may not be celebrating it. But I am sure most prefer it to a gay marriage.

That was my first thought. People like Ted Bundy and Manson are allowed to get married, but heaven forbid a same sex couple should.

Of course, if Charlie has accepted Jesus, he is going to heaven. But gay people go to hell.

I don’t know who is fucked up more. Manson or Christianity?

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/62 "2014-11-30T05:25:06Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> You lost me on that, but I probably don’t want to know.

Awww…come on!

ETA: OK, I’ll bite. My post was in re: “I didn’t know the old bastard was still alive.” I was assuming that \*\*Anaakima \*\*meant Manson. I answered as if Bugliosi was the antecedent. That was a joke, son.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2014, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/63 "2014-11-30T05:30:10Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Okay, I can live with it if they get married. But we need to draw the line if Manson talks about starting a family.

This is hilarious, as noted. I told it at work (passing it off as my own creation, of course), and it went over all heads concerned. Sigh.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/64 "2015-02-10T05:18:56Z")

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Okay, a crazy story gets crazier. Apparently the marriage was a scam. But not a scam I bet anyone would have predicted.

Afton Burton apparently has a boyfriend. And she and her boyfriend came up with an idea. Charles Manson is real old so he’s probably going to die soon, right? And they could put his corpse on display and people would pay money to see it.

Hey, I said they came up with an idea. I didn’t say it was a good idea.

Anyway they talked to Manson and he wasn’t into the plan - obviously there wasn’t a lot in it for him. So then Burton began pretending she was in love with Manson and wanted to marry him. Because she found out that under California law, Manson’s corpse would be her property if she was married to him when he died.

Manson apparently figured out that Burton only loved him for his body (yes, I went there) and called off the wedding. Because he thinks the whole idea of selling tickets to see his dead body is ridiculous.

It’s a pretty bad situation when Charles Manson has to be the voice of reason.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/65 "2015-02-10T07:03:15Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Because she found out that under California law, Manson’s corpse would be her property if she was married to him when he died.

I’m going to go way out on a limb and guess she’s not a legal scholar. I can believe that she could legally decide, e.g., whether he should be buried or cremated, but would it really be legal for her to keep his corpse in her freezer, and charge people to see it?

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**Author:** ![williambaskerville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f14d63/32.png) [@williambaskerville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/williambaskerville)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/66 "2015-02-10T07:20:33Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Okay, a crazy story gets crazier. Apparently the marriage was a scam. But not a scam I bet anyone would have predicted.
> 
> Afton Burton apparently has a boyfriend. And she and her boyfriend came up with an idea. Charles Manson is real old so he’s probably going to die soon, right? And they could put his corpse on display and people would pay money to see it.
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> Hey, I said they came up with an idea. I didn’t say it was a good idea.
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> Anyway they talked to Manson and he wasn’t into the plan - obviously there wasn’t a lot in it for him. So then Burton began pretending she was in love with Manson and wanted to marry him. Because she found out that under California law, Manson’s corpse would be her property if she was married to him when he died.
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> Manson apparently figured out that Burton only loved him for his body (yes, I went there) and called off the wedding. Because he thinks the whole idea of selling tickets to see his dead body is ridiculous.
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> It’s a pretty bad situation when Charles Manson has to be the voice of reason.

Well he’s not being that reasonable if a story I read about this is accurate. It claimed he thinks the corpse commercialization strategy is ridiculous because he’s not going to die.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/67 "2015-02-10T13:06:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It’s a pretty bad situation when Charles Manson has to be the voice of reason.

> [@williambaskerville](#):
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> Well he’s not being that reasonable if a story I read about this is accurate. It claimed he thinks the corpse commercialization strategy is ridiculous because he’s not going to die.

That’s weirdly reassuring.

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/68 "2015-02-10T22:46:01Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> I blame whoever named her “Afton”.

Swedish word for “evening.”

It’s never used as a name, though, not in Sweden anyways.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/69 "2015-02-10T22:51:02Z")

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Poor guy was jilted at the altar.  
Still, its not like he was jolted at the chair… 😃

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/70 "2015-02-11T21:16:08Z")

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Am I the only one who finds this somewhat more disturbing than sincerely falling in love with the guy?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/71 "2015-02-11T21:26:23Z")

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That is one odd story, indeed. I don’t think you could make a lot of money exhibiting his corpse, though.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/72 "2015-02-11T22:04:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I blame whoever named her “Afton”.

Robert Browning poem, “Flow Gently, Sweet Afton”, about the Afton Water (river) in Scotland. Set to music in 1837.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/N8g_NCIdeRE/hqdefault.jpg "Jo Stafford - Flow Gently, Sweet Afton") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8g_NCIdeRE)

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/73 "2015-02-11T22:53:42Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> I’m going to go way out on a limb and guess she’s not a legal scholar. I can believe that she could legally decide, e.g., whether he should be buried or cremated, but would it really be legal for her to keep his corpse in her freezer, and charge people to see it?

Only if she expects to be paid in vomit. 😃

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/74 "2015-02-13T01:36:49Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Am I the only one who finds this somewhat more disturbing than sincerely falling in love with the guy?

Yes.

Really.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/75 "2015-02-13T09:12:45Z")

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I just watched a few-days old episode of Letterman on my DVR, and he cleared this all up.

Apparently, the wedding plans were going along smoothly, and then she happened to Google “Charles Manson.”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/76 "2015-02-13T22:43:54Z")

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I figure she called it off because the warden said he’d found a loophole to the “no conjugal visits” rule so they’d be allowed to have a honeymoon.

Is it even legal to take a corpse on tour for profit?

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/77 "2015-02-13T22:54:41Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Is it even legal to take a corpse on tour for profit?

I’ve seen billboards advertising shows of skinned plasticized Chinese corpses. And I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be willing to pay to see Charlie dead. And you can take that any way you want.

There might be some biohazard concerns, but I’m pretty sure there are ways to get around them. Maybe taxidermy?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/78 "2015-02-14T01:02:22Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> I’ve seen billboards advertising shows of skinned plasticized Chinese corpses. And I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be willing to pay to see Charlie dead. And you can take that any way you want.
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> There might be some biohazard concerns, but I’m pretty sure there are ways to get around them. Maybe taxidermy?

Bangkok’s [Siriraj Medical Museum](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siriraj_Medical_Museum) has on display the mummified remains of the first known serial killer in modern Thai history, who killed and ate children in the 1950s.

Photo here (spoiler-boxed for the squeamish):

[Siriraj Medical Museum - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siriraj_Medical_Museum#mediaviewer/File:The_Forensic_Science_Museum_in_Bangkok.jpg)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/79 "2015-02-14T01:14:55Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> Did the rabbit die?

If Manson is involved, probably.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-getting-married/704907/80 "2015-02-14T01:19:52Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Okay, a crazy story gets crazier. Apparently the marriage was a scam. But not a scam I bet anyone would have predicted.

[Well, the prospective MIL says it ain’t.](http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/charles-manson-afton-burton-wedding-corpse-20150211)

FWIW.

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