# Charles Manson is not cool, you fucking idiot. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2002, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382 "2002-06-16T18:04:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/21 "2002-06-17T12:04:24Z")
Shit, I hope no one remembers some of the idiocy I practiced when I was in high school… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/22 "2002-06-17T14:46:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Astroboy14 \* > Shit, I hope no one remembers some of the idiocy I practiced when I was in high school… :eek: I hope people to remember the idiocy I practiced _yesterday_, let alone high school! While doing a little research, I came across a number of sights that glamorize mass murderers and serial killers It’s one thing to document such things, but to rate them and praise them for things like originality or brutality is beyond my understanding. These are not people I want to know. Manson is a murderer (conspiracy to commit murder, AFAIK, carries the same penalty as murder in many jurisdictions). He is a particularly brutal, non-repentent murderer. Let him rot, and defile the body when he dies. At least he’ll have some use if he’s cut up and fed to sharks. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/23 "2002-06-17T14:56:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 64Firebird \* > \*\*Manson did kill one guy, although it’s been so long that I don’t remember who it was. It didn’t have anything to do with the Tate murders. > > I don’t think he should still be in prison, but that doesn’t mean that I think he’s cool. He did write some pretty good songs (Guns & Roses covered one and had a big hit with it) and he’s not a bad guitar player. \*\* Fine. When they release him, how about you put him up at your place until he finds a place of his own? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/24 "2002-06-17T14:57:12Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t think he should still be in prison, but that doesn’t mean that I think he’s cool. He did write some pretty good songs (Guns & Roses covered one and had a big hit with it) and he’s not a bad guitar player. Yeah, let’s release him from prison because he writes some pretty good songs and isn’t a bad guitar player. :rolleyes: Too bad we didn’t fry this fuck before the law changed. ---
**Author:** ![Vinnie\_Virginslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/53a042/32.png) [@Vinnie\_Virginslayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vinnie_Virginslayer)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/25 "2002-06-17T15:10:35Z")
Thank you for that OP. Serj Tankian of System of a Down has praised Manson for his environmental theories. I love that band but its like, **THE GUY IS A FUCKING MURDERING CREEP AND NUTCASE, YOU MORON!** I mean, if Manson comes up with one brilliant, coherent idea, keep in mind 99% else of what he says is drivel. ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/26 "2002-06-17T15:44:07Z")
I’ll put money that the kid dosent actually know why Manson is in prison. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/27 "2002-06-17T16:11:30Z")
Coldie: I was the one who corresponded with him, 25 or so years ago, becasue i was curious, not becasue he was “interesting”. For the record, he is guilty of murder, I believe the people he used to carry it out were totally under his control. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/28 "2002-06-17T16:36:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \* > \*\* > > For those who don’t know it, though I’m sure most of you do, “Charlie don’t surf” is a quote from **Apocalypse Now** , “Charlie” meaning Vietcong: VC=Victor Charlie. > > \*\* Is this an example of a “mixed metaphor”? 😉 Surf or not, this guy is crazy as a shit-house rat! ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/29 "2002-06-17T21:14:56Z")
That’s what I mean, **gato**. The shirt may have been someone’s lame attempt at creating humor by means of a mixed metaphor. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/30 "2002-06-17T21:20:36Z")
And, what **TwistofFate** said. In fact, had I seen what **pkbites** saw, I might have thought the wearer had confused Manson with Che Guevara. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2002, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/31 "2002-06-18T03:10:13Z")
' **nilla** , you used to correspond with Manson? Weird! Is he as wacked out as Texe, or worse? ---
**Author:** ![syncrolecyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f08c70/32.png) [@syncrolecyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/syncrolecyne)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2002, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/32 "2002-06-18T06:15:02Z")
I’ve done the same with people who wear Che Guevara t-shirts to be cool, or to be like “Rage Against the Machine”. I am NOT comparing Che with old Swastika-face, but a lot of kids don’t even know where Che is from, what his profession was, or what principles he stood for. If they do know about him, and admire him - I might disagree but I respect that. But if you are going to display an icon - at least understand what they shirt is about - especially if you plan any vacation to Miami Beach and want to come back whole. ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2002, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/33 "2002-06-18T20:53:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by 64Firebird \* > \*\*Manson did kill one guy, although it’s been so long that I don’t remember who it was. It didn’t have anything to do with the Tate murders. > > I don’t think he should still be in prison, but that doesn’t mean that I think he’s cool. He did write some pretty good songs (Guns & Roses covered one and had a big hit with it) and he’s not a bad guitar player. \*\* Shorty Shea, a care-taker at the Spahn Ranch, allegedly shot in the head and buried. His body never turned up. From what I remember, Bugliosi listed others he directly killed (as opposed indirectly tying up the victims in the Tate/LaBianca residences and then sicking the wolves on them) I agree, _“I don’t think he should still be in prison”_ either. He should have been gassed / fried prior to the California state overturn of the death penalty. Speaking of…I still believe Leslie Van Houten should have either been convicted of a lesser crime or acquitted. She stabbed one person (Rosemary LaBianca) post-mortem and didn’t deserve the same punishement as Atkins, Watson, Krenwinkel et al. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2002, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/34 "2002-06-18T21:14:39Z")
John: Actually, Shorty’s body was eventually recovered. Clem Grogan agreed to tell authorities where it was in 1979, as part of an eventual parole agreement. Grogan was paroled in 1986. I totally agree with you about Van Houten, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2002, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382/35 "2002-06-19T18:35:18Z")
agreed also on Leslie. They were all his robots, the ones who did the killing. I dont believe they were in control of their wills at all. Guin, he’s crazy! Texe, well, I guess hes whacky. theres a difference. Texe is not dangerous. After all, if he steps TOO far out of line, the nano robots in his bloodstream will do away with him…😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-is-not-cool-you-fucking-idiot/114382.md?page=1)