# Charles Manson taken to Hospital. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 4, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282 "2017-01-04T00:02:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282/81 "2017-01-08T00:02:56Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I’m thinking of drinking a six pack of Budweiser and visiting his grave. Could be inside the prison walls though. I’m sure that wherever his remains are interred someone will have thought of your idea. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282/82 "2017-01-08T00:22:08Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > They’re reporting Manson is too weak for surgery. > > I guess he was sent back to prison because there’s not much that can be done? Good. Then he can Rot In Prison til he die. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282/83 "2017-01-08T00:27:38Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Could be inside the prison walls though. Probably, unless he is cremated and the ashes flushed down a Terminal Island prison toilet. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mr.Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Me)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282/84 "2017-01-08T00:34:19Z")
To the tune of “Not Dead Yet” from Spamalot: He is not yet dead, stick him back in jail He is not yet dead, but soon he’ll rot in hell He is not yet dead, stuff him in his cell Soon he’ll be a corpse but now he’s not yet dead Apologies to Eric Idle ---
**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282/85 "2017-01-08T04:11:27Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > That would be an ex post facto law. Following the decision of the California Supreme Court, life imprisonment was the most severe penalty available in California. > > When the California state constitution was amended to permit the death penalty, that was a change to the severity of the penalty. Increased penalties cannot be applied retroactively. Sounds like a bunch of twaddle to me. In any case the “ex post facto” was when they commuted their sentences in the first place. The new law should have only applied to future cases, everyone that was duly convicted and on death row should have been executed. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282/86 "2017-01-08T09:28:27Z")
The Supreme Court of California ruled that the death penalty was unconstitutional under California’s Constitution. That meant that all death sentences were null and void. If the State of California had executed those under unconstitutional sentences of death, they would have been committing murder. After the voters of the state passed a. Institutional amendment authorising the death penalty, and after the Supreme Court of the United States held that the death penalty could continue in certain circumstances, the Legislature of California passed a new death penalty law in the late 70s. That law could only apply to events that occurred after it came into force, not to murder that occurred before it did. An attempt to apply it to previous murders would be ex post facto and unconstitutional. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282/87 "2017-01-08T14:46:40Z")
Re: Charles Manson’s future mortal remains. The deal with his [engagement](http://nypost.com/2015/02/08/charles-mansons-fiancee-wanted-to-marry-him-for-his-corpse-source/) a couple years ago was that his fiancée was trying to get dibs on his body to exhibit it when he kicks the bucket. No romance involved. Not sure with his weirdness if he thinks a post-life on display is a bad thing or not. Maybe Charlie don’t surf the carnival circuit. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282/88 "2017-01-08T16:44:11Z")
They need to cremate the fuck… while he’s still alive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charles-manson-taken-to-hospital/776282.md?page=4)