# Charleston, SC church shooting

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 18, 2015, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823 "2015-06-18T04:15:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/241 "2015-06-20T23:20:54Z")

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[East Texas firefighter tweets praises for S.C shooter](http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/texas-news/2015/06/19/mabank-fire-department-charleston-shooting-dylann-roof/29017427/)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/242 "2015-06-20T23:25:15Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> With all due respect, can we get a cite for that?

[Sure thing.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/church-shooting-judge-reprimand/)

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> The judge in the South Carolina church massacre case was reprimanded for using the N-word in court in 2003, according to a judicial disciplinary order posted on the South Carolina Supreme Court’s website.
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> ETA: “There are four kinds of people in this world – black people, white people, red necks, and n------,” Gosnell said at the time.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/243 "2015-06-20T23:36:33Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> South Carolina is so disgusting to me right now.

That’s like saying New York is disgusting after a bad cab ride.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/244 "2015-06-20T23:44:53Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> That’s like saying New York is disgusting after a bad cab ride.

wtf

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/245 "2015-06-20T23:45:48Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> wtf

🙂

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/246 "2015-06-21T00:20:41Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Sure thing.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/church-shooting-judge-reprimand/)

I am as shocked by the fact that he was merely reprimanded, rather than fired, as I am by the shooting.

I’ve never been to South Carolina. Is overt racism really that acceptable there?

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/247 "2015-06-21T00:29:08Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I am as shocked by the fact that he was merely reprimanded, rather than fired, as I am by the shooting.
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> I’ve never been to South Carolina. Is overt racism really that acceptable there?

An overt symbol of racism hangs over the state. So I’d say yes. Though, I’m sure they are really polite about it.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/248 "2015-06-21T00:46:41Z")

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Well, bless your heart.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/249 "2015-06-21T01:45:02Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> An overt symbol of racism hangs over the state. So I’d say yes. Though, I’m sure they are really polite about it.

Perhaps if you haven’t been there, you shouldn’t judge.

There are many Jews in South Carolina, I am not sure why, and Jews are usually not racist.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/250 "2015-06-21T01:46:30Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Sure thing.](http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/19/us/church-shooting-judge-reprimand/)

Thanks for the cite!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/251 "2015-06-21T02:01:16Z")

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In my admittedly few experiences with judges, they are pompous asses, where ever they are.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/252 "2015-06-21T02:03:52Z")

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> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#):
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> It’s horrific to think he’ll get a welcome from those of his ilk in jail. That there are those who would approve of what he’s done.

He was placed beside another racist murderer.

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> Roof . . . was being held next to the cell of Michael Slager, the white former police officer charged with murder in the fatal shooting of black motorist Walter Scott in neighbouring North Charleston.

](['No room for hate' as families of Charleston 9 confront shooting suspect at hearing | CTV News](http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/no-room-for-hate-as-families-of-charleston-9-confront-shooting-suspect-at-hearing-1.2430139))

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/253 "2015-06-21T02:08:08Z")

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He’ll probably wind up joining the Aryan Brotherhood.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/254 "2015-06-21T02:12:07Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Perhaps if you haven’t been there, you shouldn’t judge.

Perhaps you need to STFU.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/255 "2015-06-21T07:46:53Z")

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Let’s dial back the heat somewhat.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/256 "2015-06-21T09:01:39Z")

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[Posing with his handgun and slavery flag. Excerpts from his manifesto. Article also mentions protest to have confederate flag at statehouse taken down.](http://http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/us/dylann-storm-roof-photos-website-charleston-church-shooting.html?_r=0)

The government flying that slavery flag is state sanctioned racism and promotes racist terrorism. The gun culture that the government supports is a culture of violence, fear and hatred. A truly pathetic society.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/257 "2015-06-21T13:25:04Z")

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[Fixed Muffin’s link.](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/21/us/dylann-storm-roof-photos-website-charleston-church-shooting.html?_r=1)

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/258 "2015-06-21T13:28:43Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/259 "2015-06-21T13:31:54Z")

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A toy flag.  
I think he is crazy.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charleston-sc-church-shooting/722823/260 "2015-06-21T14:43:54Z")

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Why? What evidence is there of any mental health issue?

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