# Charlie Kirk is Dead **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 11, 2025, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935 "2025-09-11T07:35:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/121 "2025-09-12T16:00:20Z")
Regarding the meme casings: “notices bulge, what’s this” I was aware that this was an anime and furry meme (I’m into animation too, not much of a perv) did a search for the animated example and the earliest one is this very short one: [BOLGY WOLGY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgtoypeY9yg) | (Original) Animation Meme (SFW, cute animation, but with very disturbing implications, you were warned) “If you read this you are gay” This is many times a joke from homosexuals towards very anti-gay persons that come close to where they are, but I also have seen many times in the past from arch conservatives being used as a form of homophobic trolling that weaponizes the term “gay” as an insult. “Catch this fascist” Here, I wonder if the line was directed to Kirk, or in reference to himself. “Bella ciao” As noted in another thread, this comes from an old leftie partizan song from WWII, but reading the lyrics, one of the first lines of the song refers to a partizan ‘waking up and discover that the invaders are coming’… I think that is why it is not well known or sung by many lefties in the US nowadays, that theme would be more in tune with the Neo-fascists of today in the US. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/122 "2025-09-12T16:00:43Z")
> [@bump](#): > > The message that should be taken from Kirk’s murder is that people on one side are being pushed too far, and maybe cooling it down/backing off are warranted. There is literally no chance Republicans take that message. That is not how humans work. Charlie Kirk’s whole thing was debate and persuasion; they are taking his assassination, and examples of people celebrating it, as the left’s rejection of these, and embrace of force as the only way to effect political change. Very dark mood. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/123 "2025-09-12T16:05:24Z")
NBC News has reported that the casing inscriptions are: “notices, bulges, OWO, what’s this?” [the first comma is likely an error] “Hey fascists! Catch!” with an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows. "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao.” “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.” ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/124 "2025-09-12T16:08:59Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I think that is why it is not well known or sung by many lefties in the US nowadays, Apparently it is well known online as a reference to a TV show rather than a reference to actual Italian anti-fascists. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/125 "2025-09-12T16:10:15Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > “notices, bulges, OWO, what’s this?” [the first comma is likely an error] > > “Hey fascists! Catch!” with an up arrow, a right arrow and three down arrows. > > "Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao.” > > “If you read this, you are gay LMAO.” I wonder if the 3 down arrows is [Iron Front](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Front). It’s kind of a stretch, but it’s seen some popularity online in the past couple of years, though the accounts using it tend to be fairly vanilla liberals, not especially unhinged or irony-poisoned 4-chan dorks. > [@Babale](#): > > Apparently it is well known online as a reference to a TV show rather than a reference to actual Italian anti-fascists. I wonder which show you’re talking about, but I know it from _Casa De Papel_ (English: _The Money Heist_). [here’s the link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_eq98EINOI) in which the heist ringleaders are singing it. Honestly the use of the song in the show didn’t make a ton of sense to me, just sort of “we’re like badass resistance guys who are about to stick it to the man”. It’s a fun show, but a lot of it doesn’t really make a lot of sense other than propelling the plot from cliffhanger to cliffhanger. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/126 "2025-09-12T16:11:11Z")
The arrows as well as the “catch this fascist” are a Helldivers 2 reference. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/127 "2025-09-12T16:11:45Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I wonder if the 3 down arrows is [Iron Fron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Front) It’s a reference to the game Helldivers. You fight bugs or robots as a Starship Troopers like soldier, and you call in airstrikes and stuff with key combos. > **[https://preview.redd.it/up-right-down-down-down-v0-7t0m6sqv06kc1.jpeg?width=640&...](https://preview.redd.it/up-right-down-down-down-v0-7t0m6sqv06kc1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1e4c6bc389edf622071f4b12107dfcb8132e85ad)** Up right down down down is the 500 kg bomb. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/128 "2025-09-12T16:19:13Z")
“Hey fascists! Catch!” is clearly meant to be directed at fascists (presumably Kirk in particular), and “catch this” is in reference to a bullet. The Helldivers reference, which is about dropping a bomb on aliens, is referenced because it’s a kind of military strike against an enemy. “Catch this fascist”, as reported before, might have been interpreted as saying, “catch me”, but the more recent information makes it clear that this wasn’t the intended message. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/129 "2025-09-12T16:20:07Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I wonder which show you’re talking about, but I know it from _Casa De Papel_ (English: _The Money Heist_). [here’s the link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_eq98EINOI) in which the heist ringleaders are singing it. > > Honestly the use of the song in the show didn’t make a ton of sense to me, just sort of “we’re like badass resistance guys who are about to stick it to the man”. It’s a fun show, but a lot of it doesn’t really make a lot of sense other than propelling the plot from cliffhanger to cliffhanger. Yeah, that’s the one. I’m not familiar with the show, but I had it explained to me upthread. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/130 "2025-09-12T16:26:10Z")
It’s a direct quote from helldivers which is a very ironic game where the main characters are all fascist ultra-nationalists calling other people fascists. The meaning the shooter intended is absolutely not straight forward. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/131 "2025-09-12T16:26:15Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > “Catch this fascist”, as reported before, might have been interpreted as saying, “catch me”, but the more recent information makes it clear that this wasn’t the intended message. Yep. Like I said before, the memes seem consistent with a terminally online Leftie, which could mean either that they are a terminally online Leftie that they are an edgelord playing into Leftie memes. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/132 "2025-09-12T16:28:45Z")
I think a 22 year old internet edgelord who is basically a random number generator repeating random memes with no real cohesive meaning is pretty on brand for gen z. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/133 "2025-09-12T16:30:37Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I think a 22 year old internet edgelord who is basically a random number generator repeating random memes with no real cohesive meaning is pretty on brand for gen What do the Nepalese protests have to do with this? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/134 "2025-09-12T16:30:45Z")
Where are you getting terminal online leftie vs terminally online anything else? ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/135 "2025-09-12T16:32:19Z")
Molded lead Greek slingshot slug: DEXAI (“catch”) [![](https://www.historynet.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/00449390_002-768x512.jpg) ](https://www.historynet.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/00449390_002-768x512.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/136 "2025-09-12T16:34:18Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Where are you getting terminal online leftie vs terminally online anything else? “Hey Fascist! Catch this!” and the Italian song. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/137 "2025-09-12T16:36:51Z")
“Hey fascist” is being said by a fascist ultra-nationalist in an explicitly ironic game. That’s incredibly weak. I’m not familiar with how the song is used in current culture so no comment. It’s incredibly premature to ascribe politics based on what’s been revealed. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/138 "2025-09-12T16:38:41Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > It’s incredibly premature to ascribe politics based on what’s been revealed. Which is why I said: > [@Babale](#): > > which could mean either that they are a terminally online Leftie that they are an edgelord playing into Leftie memes. I see now that I made a type; I said “either” and listed two options, but the word “or” is missing. If that’s the source of confusion, that should read: _which could mean either that they are a terminally online Leftie **or** that they are an edgelord playing into Leftie memes._ ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/139 "2025-09-12T16:43:18Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I think a 22 year old internet edgelord who is basically a random number generator repeating random memes with no real cohesive meaning is pretty on brand for gen z. This reminds me to [a family](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/16/us/colt-gray-dad-georgia-shooting) that was formerly left of center, that became MAGA (IIRC, because authorities were recommending some control, and well, the right wing message is to remove those guidelines) and ignored the very ugly messages and images the gun trained kid was making. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/140 "2025-09-12T16:59:21Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > It’s a direct quote from helldivers which is a very ironic game where the main characters are all fascist ultra-nationalists calling other people fascists. I’m very familiar with the game. I have friends who love the first game, and the second was recently released. The trailer for the game is pretty funny, and done as a ridiculous recruitment video. It’s very reminiscent of _Starship Troopers_, which also portrayed a miltaristic authoritarian society fighting armies of alien bugs. I’m not sure if that meant he identified with the fascist protagonists of the game or was unaware of the game’s nuances. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935.md?page=8)