# Charlie Kirk is Dead **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 11, 2025, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935 "2025-09-11T07:35:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/141 "2025-09-12T17:08:14Z")
I think the statements are pretty clearly targeting Kirk as a fascist, and reflect a shooter who didn’t support his rhetoric. I’ve heard it said that the shooter spoke with his family, before the murder, about Kirk’s speaking tour. The shooter wasn’t a fan. But the most interesting element of this may be the fact that he comes from a typical conservative, right wing family. How are those on the right, who are currently frothing at the threat from leftists, going to reconcile the fact that the leftists are coming from _within_ their own families?! (Actually, thats why I anticipate hearing a lot about the “indoctrination” of our education system, which will be unfairly blamed). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/142 "2025-09-12T17:09:37Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > But the most interesting element of this may be the fact that he comes from a typical conservative, right wing family. How are those on the right, who are currently frothing at the threat from leftists, going to reconcile the fact that the leftists are coming from _within_ their own families?! I expect to hear some “no true Scotsman” arguments from the right. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/143 "2025-09-12T17:14:31Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > It’s incredibly premature to ascribe politics based on what’s been revealed. More likely, an apolitical guy, with anarchist and nut tendencies. > **[Tyler Robinson: What we know about Kirk shooting suspect | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/12/us/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-invs)** > > Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old in custody as the suspect in the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, had recently become more politically active, family members said. > Robinson grew up in Washington, Utah, and earned a scholarship to attend Utah State University after a strong academic record in high school, but dropped out after just one semester, according to public records, social media and a university statement. > > Voter registration records show that Robinson is registered to vote unaffiliated with any party, although he is also listed as an “inactive” voter, meaning he hadn’t voted in at least the most recent two general elections. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/144 "2025-09-12T17:17:04Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > More likely, an apolitical guy, with anarchist and nut tendencies. If he is an Anarchist, he is hardly apolitical… That said, I’m not sure he’s either. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/145 "2025-09-12T17:18:15Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > (Actually, thats why I anticipate hearing a lot about the “indoctrination” of our education system, which will be unfairly blamed). Even more so when the killer dropped out early from University, one can say that he likely did not like the “woke” education either. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/146 "2025-09-12T17:19:36Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > More likely, an apolitical guy… From your cite > [@](#): > > …a family member told investigators that Robinson “had become more political in recent years,” Utah Governor Spencer Cox said at a press conference Friday morning… > Cox said that a family member of Robinson had told investigators that at a recent family dinner, Robinson had mentioned Kirk’s upcoming Utah Valley event, and “they talked about why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints that he had,” Cox said. “The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/147 "2025-09-12T17:20:22Z")
That is why I said “tendency” it is not like he was fully one, I think that is because of the wild nature of the internet forums. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/148 "2025-09-12T17:23:17Z")
Things is that he was not bothering to vote, the political side then was more towards actively disregarding voting, as normal political beings are, and to embrace violence instead. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/149 "2025-09-12T17:25:17Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > the political side then was more towards actively disregard voting, as normal political beings are, and embrace violence. I’m guessing he started talking more about “political issues” - something radicalized him; maybe a school shooting that hit close to home…of course, I’m just speculating. I’m surprised we haven’t heard more about his social media presence ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/150 "2025-09-12T17:26:22Z")
Maybe it’s fair to say he had non-traditional political leanings. It’s not surprising to me that someone who commits an assassination is an extremist that doesn’t conform to a typical political viewpoint. That isn’t a regular platform item for any of the major political parties. (Yet.) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/151 "2025-09-12T17:27:33Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > I’m just speculating. I’m surprised we haven’t heard more about his social media presence My experience from past incidents tells me that the reason is because it does not benefit one side over the other. Harder for the right wing to accept that mental health is an issue that has to be taken care of. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/152 "2025-09-12T17:27:50Z")
_“When we talk about online radicalization we always talk about Muslims. But the radicalization of white men online is at astronomical levels,” tweeted the sharp social observer **[Siyanda Mohutsiwa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siyanda_Mohutsiwa)** the morning after the 2016 election.”_ –David Frum, former George W. Bush speechwriter Note that the Evergreen (Denver suburb), Colorado shooter was also apparently ‘**[radicalized](https://www.denverpost.com/2025/09/11/colorado-school-shooting-suspect-desmond-holly/)**.’ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/153 "2025-09-12T17:28:26Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Harder for the right wing to accept that mental health is an issue that has to be taken care of. Except when accusing their political opponents of suffering from it, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/154 "2025-09-12T17:29:05Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > How are those on the right, who are currently frothing at the threat from leftists, going to reconcile the fact that the leftists are coming from _within_ their own families?! I am not MAGA or right-wing. But I would describe myself as roughly 60% conservative and 40% libertarian. My wife is also not MAGA or right-wing, but she’s more like 90% conservative and 10% libertarian. Our three children are in their 20s, and they’re all liberal and progressive. (Though I’m guessing they won’t stay that way… people tend to become more conservative as they get older.) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/155 "2025-09-12T17:45:43Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > “Catch this fascist” > Here, I wonder if the line was directed to Kirk, or in reference to himself It is one of those phrases that change meaning depending on the placement of commas (along with the ironically famous “eats shoots and leaves”). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/156 "2025-09-12T17:57:56Z")
Pandas are dangerous critters. ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/157 "2025-09-12T18:10:05Z")
> **hidden by mod** > > > [@bump](#): > > > > they’re still looking at the jail time as punitive > > I mean.. is it not? Lots of people lose their jobs and homes while in pre-trial confinement. ---
**Author:** ![Frilly\_Heck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@Frilly\_Heck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frilly_Heck)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/158 "2025-09-12T18:12:18Z")
He comes across as a [Groyper](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers) to me. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/159 "2025-09-12T18:16:38Z")
As the Wikipedia article mentions, Groypers at one point had a “war” with Kirk and Turning Point USA in particular, so it’s possible I suppose. But I don’t know that we have enough information yet to have any kind of truly informed speculation. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935/160 "2025-09-12T18:19:38Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Do you think his dad gets the $100,000? > [@Babale](#): > > Kash mentioned the $10,000 reward again. I wonder if this means that Dad really will be getting paid. I believe the announced reward was $100,000 like you said the first time. I would have a very hard time turning my own son in to the FBI for a capital crime. At most I would probably encourage him to turn himself in. Robinson’s father reportedly did this as well, but then turned around and reported him to a pastor (who was also U.S. Marshals task force officer!!). Per this [news story](https://abcnews.go.com/US/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-utah/story?id=125474359): > [@](#): > > Cox said that after Robinson’s father recognized his son in the distributed photographs, he told Robinson to turn himself in. Robinson initially said no but later changed his mind, officials said. > > The father then called a youth pastor, who is also a U.S. Marshals task force officer. The officer advised the father to have Robinson stay in place. This information was then conveyed to the FBI. So bottom line, the father turned his son in. I wonder if he will be able to live with himself. If I were in that situation, the reward money would make it even worse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-kirk-is-dead/1022935.md?page=9)