# Charlie Wayne, are you trolling or just stupid?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020 "2020-01-26T22:07:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/1 "2020-01-26T22:07:06Z")

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He started [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=888872) about the Chinese coronavirus asking if people are worried about it. The consensus seems to be that it is a good idea to be aware of the situation, but governments and healthcare workers managed to contain other outbreaks like Ebola and SARS.

It seems like he’s determined to stir up some panic somehow or other.

Post 7, he says it’s a bad idea to try something dangerous for the first time. How the hell does possibly having a snowboarding accident have anything to do with a virus? He also suggests taking antibiotics as a preventative measure, which is not only useless but dangerous because it creates antibiotic resistant bacteria that are then harder to treat.

Unfortunately I know a lot of people who think that antibiotics are always the cure for what ails you so I can file that one under “stupid.”

Post 53, he says that the movie “Outbreak” is the best way to learn how to handle a disease outbreak. I don’t think anyone’s that stupid so it’s gotta be trolling.

Post 69, he gets kind of snitty and threatens to slink away in shame because someone pointed out a mistake in a previous post.

Then [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22101412&postcount=133](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22101412&postcount=133), the one which got me to make this thread.

> [@](#):
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> I am reminded of two events and I hope they are not related.
> 
> Event 1  
> The first was when the NK govt allegedly sent some agents to deal with the step-brother or brother-in-law of the dear leader and two female Japanese were duped into believing they were participating in one of those game shows where a practical joke was played on someone. Long story short … they rubbed some deadly virus into the face of the relative and he died a horrible death. It happened at some airport in an Asian country I believe.
> 
> Event 2  
> The NK dear leader was unhappy at the USA leadership and said words to the effect, “we are planning a big surprise in the new year.”
> 
> Does anyone else remember these two events? If so, what are the odds they may be related?

Then Broomstick tells him that the women didn’t use a virus on Kim Jong Nam, it was nerve agent, and Charlie Wayne starts whining that he didn’t remember what the chemical used was.

IT SAYS WHAT IT WAS, THE COUNTRY WHERE IT HAPPENED, THE NAMES AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TWO WOMEN, AND THE CHEMICAL THEY USED ON HIM RIGHT IN THE SAME GOD DAMN WIKI ARTICLE YOU LINKED TO, YOU DIPSHIT!

So he’s either stupid enough to think that Kim Jong Un is getting revenge on the USA by dropping a virus on China, or he’s trolling. I hate to think that anyone is really that stupid, so it’s my conclusion that he’s trolling us with faked stupidity.

PS, please don’t tell me to stop reading that thread it he bothers me, because there are a lot of links to VALID sources of information, plus doctors and people who live in China offering their stories, and because I will sneak into your bedroom at night and leave a bowl of spoiled tunafish salad under your bed. 😛

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**Author:** ![Calavera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calavera/32/70_2.png) [@Calavera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calavera)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/2 "2020-01-26T22:10:31Z")

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He is trolling. All of his “clueless old man” shtick is deliberately created and designed to annoy. It is a deliberate persona designed only to aggravate.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/3 "2020-01-26T22:13:54Z")

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Agree about the trolling.

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/4 "2020-01-26T22:14:01Z")

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Ok then. It worked well in my case!

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/5 "2020-01-26T22:19:00Z")

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Oh, and he bumpedt [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=332285) in Post 44 and someone else pointed out that it was 15 years old, there was no spam post that might have bumped it, and it was right after the OP of that thread came back to post. So he’s not just stupid trolling, he’s malicious.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/6 "2020-01-26T22:26:57Z")

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He’s trolling. And he’s a sock. I’m astonished the mods haven’t figured this out yet. Well, not that astonished.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/7 "2020-01-26T22:42:17Z")

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Yeah, he showed back up the day after another famous troll was banned, he’s a sock.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/8 "2020-01-26T22:48:43Z")

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What is disturbing is that some well meaning fools have taught Charlie how to use the internet. It could not possibly be his idea. Yet, there it is.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/9 "2020-01-26T23:33:59Z")

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> [@tricoteuse](#):
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> Oh, and he bumpedt [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=332285) in Post 44 and someone else pointed out that it was 15 years old, there was no spam post that might have bumped it, and it was right after the OP of that thread came back to post. So he’s not just stupid trolling, he’s malicious.

Yeah, his repugnant “advice” was that people don’t care as much about dogs they ‘adopted’.

I love that the next poster asked if he realized he just replied to a 15 year old thread, and the next said:  
The dog’s dead now. I’m just sayin’.

But then comes his Sweet Ol’ Geezer Confused By All The Lights and Buttons schtick:

> [@You tried to kill my dog you horrific, awful person](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-tried-to-kill-my-dog-you-horrific-awful-person/319047/48):
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> YIKES!
> 
> I had no idea. How did it get to be visible? I mean how did I ever find it in the first place? I might have been searching for something. But I really have no idea. DUH! Another dumb move on my part.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/10 "2020-01-26T23:47:55Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Yeah, he showed back up the day after another famous troll was banned, he’s a sock.

Some of us have our money on **Drunky Smurf** , who was suspended last month and hasn’t returned since his suspension ended.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/11 "2020-01-26T23:53:35Z")

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Interesting, I was assuming Ditka, because Wayne showed back up a few days after his banning. Either way, its kind of pathetic to put that much effort into being an asshole.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/12 "2020-01-27T00:32:52Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> He’s trolling. And he’s a sock. I’m astonished the mods haven’t figured this out yet. Well, not that astonished.

Not at all. Charlie was a regular contributor here quite some time ago. His thread on “movies you’ve seen recently” has been active for years in CS. Yes, his posting style is odd, and I’m not sure if it’s because there is some underlying cause, but I really don’t think the guy is malicious. He left the last time because of this sort of harassment over his posts, and I’m not sure why he would return to a place where he’s not welcome. Any road, I suggest just dealing with it in the usual way.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/13 "2020-01-27T00:34:12Z")

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I dunno. I think it’s a bit of both. Mostly trolling but also a lot of stupid. There are threads where it’s obvious he’s actually trying to contribute in a meaningful way but is not intelligent or informed enough to do so.

Poe’s Law is a rough beast. At some point, there’s no meaningful distinction between stupidity and trolling.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/14 "2020-01-27T00:59:41Z")

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Did I miss something. **cochrane** and **madmonk28** , do you think one of them hacked **Charlie Wayne** ’s account, which joined in 2012 and seems to be semi-active?

I’m voting ridiculously, aggressively stupid, which can be and often is quite aggravating.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/15 "2020-01-27T01:08:40Z")

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Why can’t he be both stupid AND a troll/sock? It’s not like they’re mutually exclusive. Granted he probably plays it up a bit, but I doubt he’s all that bright to begin with.

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/16 "2020-01-27T01:09:51Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Not at all. Charlie was a regular contributor here quite some time ago. His thread on “movies you’ve seen recently” has been active for years in CS. Yes, his posting style is odd, and I’m not sure if it’s because there is some underlying cause, but I really don’t think the guy is malicious. He left the last time because of this sort of harassment over his posts, and I’m not sure why he would return to a place where he’s not welcome. Any road, I suggest just dealing with it in the usual way.

I’m not picking on you, Chefguy, but I am complaining about this kind of post because it seems like someone always posts something like this. The thing is I wasn’t around the last time he was actively posting. I don’t know why he stopped for a while. All I know is that he keeps jumping into an intersting thread to post borderline nonsense and I can’t bitch him out for it in IMHO.

I’m assuming the usual way means either putting him on ignore, which doesn’t work unless everyone stops responding to him and someone always does, or ignore the thread which I don’t want to do because there are a lot of interesting posts. Plus he’s liable to show up in some other thread I’m following and then I have the same problem all over again. And it really is all about me! 😃

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/17 "2020-01-27T01:20:21Z")

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> [@Calavera](#):
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> He is trolling. All of his “clueless old man” shtick is deliberately created and designed to annoy. It is a deliberate persona designed only to aggravate.

Yeah, he’s a clueless old man [who knows all about using a VPN](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=786241) — the number one tool in a sock/troll’s toolbox.

It’s **Drunky Smurf**. I’d bet the farm on it. Hell, he’s probably reading this thread and laughing like a lunatic right now.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/18 "2020-01-27T02:08:14Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> Yeah, he’s a clueless old man [who knows all about using a VPN](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=786241) — the number one tool in a sock/troll’s toolbox.
> 
> It’s **Drunky Smurf**. I’d bet the farm on it. Hell, he’s probably reading this thread and laughing like a lunatic right now.

So either:  
(a) DS has had a sock since 2012 (6 years after DS joined), or  
(b) DS hacked CW’s account

I think you are going to owe me a farm.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/19 "2020-01-27T02:08:38Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Not at all. Charlie was a regular contributor here quite some time ago. His thread on “movies you’ve seen recently” has been active for years in CS. Yes, his posting style is odd, and I’m not sure if it’s because there is some underlying cause, but I really don’t think the guy is malicious. He left the last time because of this sort of harassment over his posts, and I’m not sure why he would return to a place where he’s not welcome. Any road, I suggest just dealing with it in the usual way.

You think all trolls come in, waving flags and jumping up and down shrieking? :dubious:

Whether **Charlie** is one or not, that don’t mean shit.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/20 "2020-01-27T02:15:31Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Did I miss something. **cochrane** and **madmonk28** , do you think one of them hacked **Charlie Wayne** ’s account, which joined in 2012 and seems to be semi-active?
> 
> I’m voting ridiculously, aggressively stupid, which can be and often is quite aggravating.

I think that he’s a sock that a troll uses to play around with when they’re tired of their other Schlick, or when they get banned.

ETA: he and HD both started their accounts around the same time.

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