# Charlie Wayne, are you trolling or just stupid?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020 "2020-01-26T22:07:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/21 "2020-01-27T02:25:05Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> So either:  
> (a) DS has had a sock since 2012 (6 years after DS joined), or  
> (b) DS hacked CW’s account
> 
> I think you are going to owe me a farm.

Why is it so implausible that somebody could have a sock account for eight years?

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/22 "2020-01-27T02:31:41Z")

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JFC, I have sock accounts on the Geeb going back to 2009–a few that have never been outed even. Some of them I remember the account password, some not. Shit, I tried join reddit and discovered I’d already done so back in about '08, completely forgot I’d done it so my account is twelve years old but only active for the last two or three. Same with Twitter, I have a ten year old account that has a grand total of about three tweets because I set up the account then forgot about it. Why in hell do people not understand that all kinds of people have weird random accounts they don’t use? And that sometimes they rediscover those accounts and decide to go drive around in that one rather than their usual daily driver? And that sometimes it’s kinda fun to have this brand new persona in a place where you’re known as someone else? And that maybe, just maybe, this might lead to some antic and annoying and TROLLISH behavior? FFS, get some goddamned internet smarts, shit.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/23 "2020-01-27T02:37:53Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> You think all trolls come in, waving flags and jumping up and down shrieking? :dubious:
> 
> Whether **Charlie** is one or not, that don’t mean shit.

Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, which you seem incapable of doing. He was an annoying poster back then, and he’s still an annoying poster, but to me it seems indicative of some sort of dysfunction. I’m also able to just put him on mental ignore. I suggest y’all try to do the same.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/24 "2020-01-27T02:51:55Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, which you seem incapable of doing. He was an annoying poster back then, and he’s still an annoying poster, but to me it seems indicative of some sort of dysfunction. I’m also able to just put him on mental ignore. I suggest y’all try to do the same.

+1

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/25 "2020-01-27T03:07:12Z")

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Ah, trolls. It always makes me think of English comedian [Stewart Lee’s rave about Top Gear](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7CnMQ4L9Pc).

Talking about host Jeremy Clarkson he says, “The thing about Jeremy Clarkson is, I think he’s either an idiot or a genius, right. He’s either an idiot who actually believes all the badly researched, lying, offensive shit that he says. Or he’s a genius who’s worked out exactly the most accurate way to annoy me.”

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/26 "2020-01-27T03:44:39Z")

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Yeah, he went away for a while and came back.

I think the first time he stood out to me was in [a 2014 post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17541086&postcount=25)where he was being a little creepy towards me, and not contributing anything useful to the thread topic (in a thread I didn’t even start), and I couldn’t quite figure out whether he was being unintentionally creepy, joking, referring to the fact that he and I both seem to be interested in music, just trolling, or I don’t know. My response at that time was cordial enough, but looking back at it, his post there was really weird and unsettling, and I wouldn’t respond to that same type of post in the same way today.

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/27 "2020-01-27T04:10:46Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Yeah, he went away for a while and came back.

For what it’s worth, Charlie disappeared after getting a [warning for trolling](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19179731&postcount=30) four years ago.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/28 "2020-01-27T04:33:05Z")

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> For what it’s worth, Charlie disappeared after getting a [warning for trolling](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19179731&postcount=30) four years ago.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/29 "2020-01-27T05:31:58Z")

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> [@tricoteuse](#):
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> Then [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22101412&postcount=133](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22101412&postcount=133), the one which got me to make this thread.

Ouch! That post was in response to my post. :eek: :o Given the speed with which my own reputation here is declining, next thing I’ll be accused of being Charlie’s straight man.

I hereby formally request that, as punishment for my role in that transgression, I be stripped naked, tied to a table, handcuffed, and flagellated.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/30 "2020-01-27T07:05:32Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> I think you are going to owe me a farm.

Take a hard pass. Farming is tedious and there is no money in it.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/31 "2020-01-27T13:58:19Z")

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Personally, I like the guy. He is who is and I don’t think that he’s a sock, especially not for HD. HD was, and not to speak ill of the “departed” here, a belligerent asshole. Charlie isn’t. And even if you think he’s the latter, he certainly isn’t the former. (Besides, I do detect certain similarities between his posting style now and what it was before, so I also don’t think he’s a sock.)

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/32 "2020-01-27T14:05:37Z")

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He seems okay to me. And there are a few posters that I definitely don’t care for, and he’s not one of them.

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**Author:** ![tricoteuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tricoteuse/32/4334_2.png) [@tricoteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tricoteuse)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/33 "2020-01-27T14:10:49Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Ouch! That post was in response to my post. :eek: :o Given the speed with which my own reputation here is declining, next thing I’ll be accused of being Charlie’s straight man.
> 
> I hereby formally request that, as punishment for my role in that transgression, I be stripped naked, tied to a table, handcuffed, and flagellated.

I’m going to ouch you again Septimus because I didn’t even pay attention to who he was responding to. :o I reread the post and I could tell that your post was being jokey. So no kinky table tennis for you, young man!

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**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/34 "2020-01-27T15:12:14Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, which you seem incapable of doing. He was an annoying poster back then, and he’s still an annoying poster, but to me it seems indicative of some sort of dysfunction. I’m also able to just put him on mental ignore. I suggest y’all try to do the same.

This attitude is how you all got rolled by umkay for so long. Playing nice and only calling them out in the Pit lets them merrily trolly troll troll for far longer than instant and public shaming within the original thread would.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/35 "2020-01-27T15:34:37Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Personally, I like the guy. He is who is and I don’t think that he’s a sock, especially not for HD. HD was, and not to speak ill of the “departed” here, a belligerent asshole. Charlie isn’t. And even if you think he’s the latter, he certainly isn’t the former. (Besides, I do detect certain similarities between his posting style now and what it was before, so I also don’t think he’s a sock.)

this.

Besides, I know and care about people in real life with similar levels of functional confusion.

Pura vida.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/36 "2020-01-27T15:46:04Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> this.
> 
> Besides, I know and care about people in real life with similar levels of functional confusion.
> 
> Pura vida.

Yeah, he just seems to me to be someone who just goes in and out of mental clarity or something. But I’m also more likely to take people at their word at them being sincere and chalk up oddities to mental and/or medical quirks. But if somebody does want to play this persona on the internet, have at it. I don’t understand what they get from it, but it doesn’t bother me.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/37 "2020-01-27T16:13:43Z")

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I’m of the opinion that **CW** is a mostly harmless crank rather than a malicious twat.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/38 "2020-01-27T16:48:42Z")

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He’s the SDMB version of Emily Litella.

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22102836&postcount=8](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22102836&postcount=8)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/39 "2020-01-27T18:06:43Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Take a hard pass. Farming is tedious and there is no money in it.

On the contrary, driving through Eastern Washington and seeing farm country some of those big farms have small mansions on them. A modern farmer may be well-educated in agricultural sciences and may have a business degree as well, and can make a fortune off their land. It’s a business and like any business can lay golden or rotten eggs depending on luck and/or smart decisions.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-are-you-trolling-or-just-stupid/847020/40 "2020-01-27T18:16:34Z")

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> [@MoonMoon](#):
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> This attitude is how you all got rolled by umkay for so long. Playing nice and only calling them out in the Pit lets them merrily trolly troll troll for far longer than instant and public shaming within the original thread would.

I, for one, was not fooled by that asshole. I think I can spot a troll fairly well. This guy is just way too consistent over a long period of time (whereas Umkay peaked early), so unless he’s an evil genius bent on destroying us all, I’m going to go with ‘person with an issue’. That doesn’t mean I’m going to start taking his posts seriously, but I’m also not going to trash the guy for little reason.

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