# Charlie Wayne, you are a sexist, stupid jerk.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460 "2015-03-07T17:53:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/61 "2015-03-09T03:35:33Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I believe you’re thinking of **JohnClay** , there.

**JohnClay** is married? Seriously? The guy who’s always posting about fasting and the Bible?

Whoodathunk.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/62 "2015-03-09T03:59:34Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> **JohnClay** is married? Seriously?

Yeah but he doesn’t seem too thrilled about it. I think he rates his wife a what, a “4”?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/63 "2015-03-09T07:07:34Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Yeah but he doesn’t seem too thrilled about it. I think he rates his wife a what, a “4”?

He gave her a 5, saying she was average looking. He also made it very clear he was only talking about her looks, and, frankly, he wouldn’t be the only person to marry someone who they think is only average looking.

Yeah, he was stupid to keep on talking about it when it was clearly bothering people, but the way people reacted to what he said and blew it all of proportion was ridiculous.

We both have experience with other posters doing that with our posts. JohnClay was just stupid enough to double down on it rather than try to calm the storm. And then he did it again and again, to the point it seemed like trolling.

Remember, he has some weird personality disorder that makes it hard for him to interact with others normally. And, unlike our friend **Charlie** , I think his is legit.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/64 "2015-03-09T13:38:46Z")

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He is skeevy, and even I hadn’t realized how much until I saw all of these posts.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/65 "2015-03-09T13:53:43Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Yeah but he doesn’t seem too thrilled about it. I think he rates his wife a what, a “4”?

A solid 4, though.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/66 "2015-03-09T14:11:17Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Yeah but he doesn’t seem too thrilled about it. I think he rates his wife a what, a “4”?

Didn’t **JohnClay** also call his wife a “low-maintenance sex machine?”

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/67 "2015-03-09T14:18:15Z")

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I am very sleepy but I’m pretty sure this is a first: **Northern Piper** pitting someone. Richly deserved, of course.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/68 "2015-03-09T15:18:57Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Didn’t **JohnClay** also call his wife a “low-maintenance sex machine?”

Interestingly enough, that’s the title of my sex tape.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/69 "2015-03-09T17:27:11Z")

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Curiously it’s also the title of my mix tape.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/70 "2015-03-09T17:38:22Z")

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Just so everyone knows, Charlie and I are of no relation.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/71 "2015-03-09T17:41:50Z")

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> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#):
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> Just so everyone knows, Charlie and I are of no relation.

Wise of you to note this, I think.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/72 "2015-03-09T18:07:37Z")

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I’m not buying it.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/73 "2015-03-10T00:17:45Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> A solid 4, though.

True. Gotta give a man credit where credit is due.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/74 "2015-03-10T03:03:06Z")

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Maybe he’s a jerk (okay, not maybe, for sure) but it’s not sexist to call one particular woman a mule. If anything it’s sexist on your part by implying that a woman can’t take being called a mule.

For what it’s worth, she doesn’t look like a mule, I was expecting much worse when I clicked to look at her picture. I was sort of looking forward to seeing some mule looking freak and now I don’t get to. Boo. Damn you, Charlie Wayne. You got my hopes up.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/75 "2015-03-10T07:40:01Z")

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I’ll leave the troll accusations alone, sock ones too.

But come on making fun of a politicians or leaders appearance is a time honored tradition, remember how often Bush 2 was compared to a chimp? Caricatures of Prince Charles, or Camilla? Caricaturists have decided Obama’s feature to make fun of is big ears apparently, which is kind of odd since he doesn’t have particularly big ears.

I am just bristling a little at making fun of female leaders looks=sexism.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/76 "2015-03-10T12:39:58Z")

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I think it was more a case of “she can’t be any good if she’s ugly” which seems sexist to me; women must be lovely but men can just be smart/efficient/good at their jobs. Anyway that issue seems to me the least of Charlie’s “problems”.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/77 "2015-03-10T13:41:31Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> I’ll leave the troll accusations alone, sock ones too.
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> But come on making fun of a politicians or leaders appearance is a time honored tradition, remember how often Bush 2 was compared to a chimp? Caricatures of Prince Charles, or Camilla? Caricaturists have decided Obama’s feature to make fun of is big ears apparently, which is kind of odd since he doesn’t have particularly big ears.
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> I am just bristling a little at making fun of female leaders looks=sexism.

It kind of is. Because his point was not “She looks like a monkey, god she’s so dumb,” It was literally, “She’s so ugly she’s useless.”

Because women are judged constantly by their appearance, way more than men. Because men can get by with dumpy but women have to always be on their game, looks-wise.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/78 "2015-03-10T14:10:20Z")

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Truly amazing how some people come to the most incredible conclusions based on nothing more than their imagination.

One person in this thread decided that I was most likely homophobic because the Premier is a Lesbian.

That is some kind of amazing train of thought. I am likely homophobic because she is a Lesbian.

Jane Blow is a Lesbian. Therefore you are most likely homophobic.

Huh?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/79 "2015-03-10T14:21:28Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> Truly amazing how some people come to the most incredible conclusions based on nothing more than their imagination.
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> Huh?

Charlie, do you have anything to say about any of the other things that have been said about you? I, like others, was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt until I saw the sheer weight of the evidence accumulated against you. I am still willing to listen to your side if you are willing to talk.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-wayne-you-are-a-sexist-stupid-jerk/714460/80 "2015-03-10T16:39:12Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> Truly amazing how some people come to the most incredible conclusions based on nothing more than their imagination.
> 
> One person in this thread decided that I was most likely homophobic because the Premier is a Lesbian.
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> That is some kind of amazing train of thought. I am likely homophobic because she is a Lesbian.
> 
> Jane Blow is a Lesbian. Therefore you are most likely homophobic.
> 
> Huh?

Don’t worry you poor dear. There are many mean people on this board whose sole purpose is just to pick on others. Just ignore them and keep on trolling.

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