# Charlie Webster blames Romney's loss on Mystery Black People:

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 15, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119 "2012-11-15T19:47:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/21 "2012-11-15T22:00:51Z")

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:rolleyes: No, no, no, the story got garbled before Webster heard it; it was the Men **in** Black.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/22 "2012-11-15T22:06:29Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Now, let’s not be too hasty.
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> When asked about the veracity of Charlie White’s claims over in the “ID Demanding vote suppression thread”, **Bricker** replied:
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> So is it within the realm of possibility that black strangers somehow managed to make their way to polling stations in small towns in Maine, and cast ballots?
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> **Bricker** seems to be dancing around the issue quite a bit here, and is choosing his words very carefully, and is not _actually saying_ that this indeed happened.

But you have to admit, if it actually happened, it would be pretty despicable!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/23 "2012-11-15T22:19:09Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Now, let’s not be too hasty.
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> When asked about the veracity of Charlie White’s claims over in the “ID Demanding vote suppression thread”, **Bricker** replied:
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> So is it within the realm of possibility that black strangers somehow managed to make their way to polling stations in small towns in Maine, and cast ballots?
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> **Bricker** seems to be dancing around the issue quite a bit here, and is choosing his words very carefully, and is not _actually saying_ that this indeed happened.

Certainly the alternative - that some white Republicans in Maine don’t know their black neighbors - is too preposterous to contemplate.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/24 "2012-11-15T22:24:05Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Certainly the alternative - that some white Republicans in Maine don’t know their black neighbors - is too preposterous to contemplate.

Oh please, you can’t prove that. But if my hypothetical busloads of people were actually bussed in to swing the election, that would look pretty bad for the Democrat party, right?

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/25 "2012-11-15T22:37:24Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Oh please, you can’t prove that. But if my hypothetical busloads of people were actually bussed in to swing the election, that would look pretty bad for the Democrat party, right?

If my hypothetical saucerloads of alien pod people brought from Obama’s secret moon base were actually flown in to swing the election, that would look pretty bad for the Democratic Party, too.

Oh, my bad. The Democrat Party. Sorry. The DemocRAT Party. I never get what the kids are saying right.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/26 "2012-11-15T22:41:36Z")

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So maybe this guy has simply never been to Lewiston. Whole buncha Somalis there, nice folks too.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/27 "2012-11-15T22:49:09Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> But if my hypothetical busloads of people were actually bussed in to swing the election, that would look pretty bad for the Democrat party, right?

Well, yes – it would certainly look bad for the Democrats if they were actually stupid enough to bring highly conspicuous fake voters to venues where they would be particularly easy to spot.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/28 "2012-11-15T22:50:51Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> **Bricker** seems to be dancing around the issue quite a bit here

Hey, Rafalca ain’t getting any younger, and it’s never too early to get yourself lined up to fill a future job opening.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/29 "2012-11-15T22:55:44Z")

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Ayuh, couple years back a big feller, 7 feet tall, completely covered in hair head to toe like some kind of Chewbacca, lives way out in the woods and don’t get out much, well I run into him and we shared a few words, and I seem to recall him mentionin’ something about large numbers of black people living even farther out into the woods. He claimed to have photographed them but at the time I thought he must be crazy and I just kinda talked my way outta there. I suppose if you were friendly enough you might be able to talk to him too, and maybe he’ll show you what he claims are photographs of these “black people”. Still not sure I believe it though, even after all the strange things that a been happening round these parts.

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/30 "2012-11-15T23:44:24Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Oh please, you can’t prove that. But if my hypothetical busloads of people were actually bussed in to swing the election, that would look pretty bad for the Democrat party, right?

It sure would be interesting to see the home addresses used on those registrations… and how all these ‘strangers’ got on the registration lists.

It isn’t like they can just unload a busload of people and send them into the polls. That’s what all that registration stuff is about. And, at least around here, I think they actually do use the Post Office address validation stuff.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/31 "2012-11-15T23:47:38Z")

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> [@Enkel](#):
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> It sure would be interesting to see the home addresses used on those registrations… and how all these ‘strangers’ got on the registration lists.
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> It isn’t like they can just unload a busload of people and send them into the polls. That’s what all that registration stuff is about. And, at least around here, I think they actually do use the Post Office address validation stuff.

No,no, that would be too much work. Better to just assume the Democrats won Maine through voter fraud.

Prolly the Black Panther’s doing.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/32 "2012-11-15T23:48:15Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> These people cost Mitt Romney the election. And yet if he were to have these people killed, he would be the one to go to prison. That’s democracy for you.

Simpsons joke or not, I’ve always thought this was as good a brief description of democracy as any I’d ever heard.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/33 "2012-11-15T23:58:53Z")

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This would be the most cunning plan ever.  
My mind just boggles at the level of effort (and desperation) it would take to register and then transport multiple busloads of (very conspicuous) people five or six hours into rural Maine in order to attempt to win … 1 electoral vote. The Press was calling it a nail-biter, but I’m not sure it ever looked close enough for Maine to be an issue.

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**Author:** ![vaultermn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/4bbf92/32.png) [@vaultermn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vaultermn)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/34 "2012-11-16T00:08:11Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Maine GOP head, Charlie Webster blames Romney’s loss on Mystery Black People:

Actually, he didn’t blame the loss on mystery black people.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/35 "2012-11-16T00:09:05Z")

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> [@vaultermn](#):
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> Actually, he didn’t blame the loss on mystery black people.

Was he [Just Asking Questions](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/JAQing_off)?

Maybe he was [Concerned](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll).

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**Author:** ![Crab\_Rangoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Crab\_Rangoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crab_Rangoon)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/36 "2012-11-16T00:13:22Z")

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I knew a black person when I was attending college in Orono (Maine). And he was from…Kenya! I bet they had all the Kenyan grad students fly their families in to vote for Obama. Be just like them.

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**Author:** ![Vlad\_Igor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Vlad\_Igor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vlad_Igor)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/37 "2012-11-16T00:15:53Z")

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[Bobby Jindal seems to have lobbed the first grenade into this mess.](http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/11/15/louisiana-governor-bobby-jindal-blasts-mitt-romney-for-blaming-defeat-barack-obama-gifts/CKMQJa7p92PwSc7FXxvYqI/story.html) It seems he was addressing Romney, not Webster, though. I expect the Tea Party to launch RPGs at anything that moves in the next few days.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/38 "2012-11-16T00:32:24Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Prolly the Black Panther’s doing.

I’m nominating this for Best Satirical Use of the Singular for the year.

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**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/39 "2012-11-16T01:32:42Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Oh please, you can’t prove that. But if my hypothetical busloads of people were actually bussed in to swing the election, that would look pretty bad for the Democrat party, right?

And then what? A bunch of “bussed in” votors walk up to the voting registrar, who notes that they’re not on the list, and then they go home? You have to show ID and proof of residency to register at the polls in Maine. Sure, you could use fakes, but it would be almost immediately uncovered.

It would be easy enough to check if there are black residents of the towns in question…except that nobody making the accusation is willing to even name the towns.

There’s no story here. But to answer your question, yes. It would make the Democrat party look very bad – and especially incompetent at rigging elections. So would Obama eating a kitten on live TV, but that didn’t happen, either.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlie-webster-blames-romneys-loss-on-mystery-black-people/641119/40 "2012-11-16T01:35:18Z")

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> [@TimeWinder](#):
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> It would be easy enough to check if there are black residents of the towns in question…except that nobody making the accusation is willing to even name the towns.

The Maine guy may not have been specific, but some of the “disputed” districts have been named. They’re nearly all-black urban areas. There are a few areas where Obama got zero votes or nearly zero votes, but for some reason Democrats are not using those as proof of voter fraud by Romney.

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> It would make the Democrat party look very bad – and especially incompetent at rigging elections. So would Obama eating a kitten on live TV, but that didn’t happen, either.

Republicans demand Senate hearings on KittenGate.

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