# Charlottesville: can both sides be blamed for violence? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 16, 2017, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlottesville-can-both-sides-be-blamed-for-violence/793787 "2017-08-16T12:21:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlottesville-can-both-sides-be-blamed-for-violence/793787/201 "2017-08-18T23:59:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Which communist government is the exception? Do you consider the Sandinistas [communist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandinista_ideology)? Not a rhetorical question - some don’t, entirely. At any rate while they certainly came to power by the gun, they showed at least some willingness to abide by democratic principles, including tolerating to whatever variable degree multiple defeats at the ballot box. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlottesville-can-both-sides-be-blamed-for-violence/793787/202 "2017-08-19T05:37:16Z")
I skimmed this thread with increasing revulsion. I don’t think **Okrahoma** or most Republicans are Nazis or white supremacists. But if they were transported to Germany of the early 1930’s, I think they’d be voting for the ‘right’ and encouraging their kids to join the popular clubs with pretty uniforms. > [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > LOL. The Nazi apologetics are getting worse and worse. > > For your amusement, try googling the various flyers for the Charlottesville rally that **Okrahoma** thinks attracted garden variety Republicans. I challenge you to find one without prominent mention of famous white supremacists, Nazi eagles, people smashing the Star of David, and the like. Although it seems to be undisputed that most of the death and injury in Charlottesville occurred in a single incident by a neo-Nazi; and that his action has since been applauded by many (not most) other neo-Nazis, **Okrahoma** insisted that any attempt to quantify blame was “anecdotal.” (Perhaps we need to wait until the newly-reempowered Breitbart News gives us its final scientific conclusions?) Ironically, this same **Okrahoma** defended his own comments by posting a long-winded anecdotal account! 😛 > [@Okrahoma](#): > > [quoting a closed-group Facebooker] … I met a very nice woman who was there with her husband and 16 year old son. She knew the person who planned the event, and she voiced to me that she didn’t like the hate groups who were pleasant, … > > Two white BLM ignorant bitches … The length of this account makes me fairly confident it was put together as propaganda and likely to be full of lies. I didn’t skim the entire screed, but did pursue it long enough to catch “the hate groups who were pleasant.” Freudian slip? > [@orcenio](#): > > Goddamned leftist Nazi protesters! Their blood is on their own hands! How dare they incite violence with their upitity cries of equality. At last! A breath of sanity in a revolting thread. **orcenio** captures the mood of America’s 38%. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlottesville-can-both-sides-be-blamed-for-violence/793787/203 "2017-08-19T05:49:33Z")
I’d never heard of Christopher Cantwell, the right-wing hero of Charlottesville. > [@](#): > > In Cantwell’s world, Blacks are prone to violence and have lower IQs; Jews spread communism and can’t be trusted; immigrants are outbreeding whites; and a race war is all but inevitable. > > Cantwell has called for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government, and, in previous years, for the assassination of ordinary law enforcement officers and other government workers. Democrats and “communists” need to be “physically removed” from the country, Cantwell insists, and white men should consider polygamy to increase number of Caucasian babies being born. I did note the bald-headed man in some of the news videos, _ **calling for violence by his fellow neo-Nazis.** _ [And now he’s on YouTube, _ **literally in tears,** _ because an arrest warrant has been issued against him!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyeTj002DCo) What an utter joke! Those who think the history of 1930’s Germany is being repeated, forget the operative part of Karl Marx’s famous quote: "“History repeats itself … as farce.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/charlottesville-can-both-sides-be-blamed-for-violence/793787.md?page=10)