# Chauvin jury has reached verdict BREAKING NEWS

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 20, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401 "2021-04-20T20:49:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/1 "2021-04-20T20:49:27Z")

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Ok, so I know breaking news stories go here in MPSIMS so if this needs to be moved please do so.

[News reports](https://news.yahoo.com/live-chauvin-trial-jury-deliberations-verdict-george-floyd-murder-134733208.html) indicate the jury in the trial of Derek Chauvin have reached a verdict and it will be read shortly.

Does the fact the jury reached a verdict so quickly indicate a greater likelihood of conviction or acquittal typically?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/2 "2021-04-20T20:53:18Z")

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IIRC, generally a fast verdict means guilty.

I’ve heard of one murderer who was convicted after just 30 seconds of jury deliberation, or something like that.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/3 "2021-04-20T20:54:41Z")

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My guess is that manslaughter is about the only charge they likely would have reached unanimously in this relatively short period of time.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/4 "2021-04-20T20:58:49Z")

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I agree that it will be manslaughter. I sure don’t want to see what will happen if it’s not guilty.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/5 "2021-04-20T21:00:40Z")

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This is certainly breaking news, but remember, no political swipes here. You may want to open a topic in a different category, as I expect people will want to say political things. Maybe there’s already a P&E topic for that?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/6 "2021-04-20T21:02:16Z")

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IMHO has an ongoing thread.

> [@Minnesota trial of Derek Chauvin (killer of George Floyd) reactions](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/minnesota-trial-of-derek-chauvin-killer-of-george-floyd-follow-along-thread/939024):
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> Mods can feel free to move if this is better suited to GD or MPSIMS. I didn’t see a thread to follow along the trial, so here’s one. I found the dispatcher’s testimony yesterday compelling – I hadn’t known about her alarm about what she saw prior to this.

That should be good for the more debate side of this horrible story.

My thanks to **Czarcasm** for the link.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/7 "2021-04-20T21:03:11Z")

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Just about to add it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/8 "2021-04-20T21:06:28Z")

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Count 1: Guilty 2nd degree murder  
Count 2: Guilty 3rd degree Murder  
Count 3: Guilty 2nd degree man-slaughter.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/9 "2021-04-20T21:07:18Z")

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second degree murder: guilty  
third degree murder: guilty  
second degree manslaughter: guilty

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/10 "2021-04-20T21:08:07Z")

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And a bit of faith in humanity is restored…

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/11 "2021-04-20T21:08:23Z")

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jurors sound confident of their verdicts

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/12 "2021-04-20T21:08:59Z")

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I checked P & E but didn’t look in IMHO. Sorry.

If you feel it necessary go ahead and close this or merge them or whatever you think best.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/13 "2021-04-20T21:09:33Z")

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judge thanks jurors, who were not on camera and were only referred to by number. Says that he will answer their questions privately in a few minutes.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/14 "2021-04-20T21:09:54Z")

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I think this is fine, it is the breaking news thread. But not my forum so they might close or merge this one into a prior thread.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/15 "2021-04-20T21:10:10Z")

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This is fine for the breaking news part

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/16 "2021-04-20T21:10:38Z")

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Big national sigh of relief.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/17 "2021-04-20T21:11:05Z")

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Chauvin’s bail revoked and he is taken into custody.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/18 "2021-04-20T21:11:28Z")

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I’m assuming PROTECTIVE custody…

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/19 "2021-04-20T21:11:29Z")

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And now my phone is buzzing with news alerts.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/20 "2021-04-20T21:12:20Z")

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I’m shocked. I am glad I didn’t bet money.

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