# Chauvin jury has reached verdict BREAKING NEWS **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 20, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401 "2021-04-20T20:49:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/41 "2021-04-21T06:30:08Z")
[Darnella Frazier](https://nypost.com/2020/06/12/teen-who-recorded-george-floyd-video-wasnt-looking-to-be-hero/), 17 at the time. And I wonder how long before laws are proposed making it a crime to videotape police “interactions.” ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/42 "2021-04-21T06:33:19Z")
That’s the scary thing. She was a brave kid, and I’m sure if Chauvin wasn’t otherwise…occupied…he would have grabbed her camera phone away too. People believe because they’ve seen it for the last year on the news. How about all the ones who weren’t so “fortunate” to have it recorded? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/43 "2021-04-21T07:47:54Z")
I can’t quote it verbatim, but the original MPD report (almost certainly based on the officers’ raw input) said that they noticed Floyd was experiencing distress during the “interaction;” they summoned aid, and he died _en route_ or at the hospital. It wasn’t until nearly midnight that someone phoned the chief and called his attention to the video. Chauvin was fired the next day, and the rest is history. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/44 "2021-04-21T11:36:13Z")
In a big crowd, police can’t confiscate ALL the phones. And anyway, someone will film them _confiscating_ the phones, so there’s that. [slightly off topic] > [@Biffster](#): > > People believe because they’ve seen it for the last year on the news. Musing… we watched the Jan 6 riot _live_ as it happened, and still, many Repubs are saying we didn’t see what we saw… [/off topic] ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/45 "2021-04-21T11:44:17Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > In a big crowd, police can’t confiscate ALL the phones. And anyway, someone will film them _confiscating_ the phones, so there’s that. There’s that, but also, depending on how your phone is set up – your video gets uploaded to the cloud, anyway, so even if the cops have your physical phone, you have access to it. Plus there’s the ability to livestream, if you’re quick enough to think of it. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/46 "2021-04-21T11:49:07Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Is it common for someone to be convicted of three crimes for what is, essentially, a single incident? It seems to me that Chauvin committed either murder or manslaughter, but not both. Not uncommon at all to charge and prosecute someone for every chargeable crime. If an appeals court decides murder 2 was excessive and it should have been murder 3, you’re out of luck if you didn’t charge murder 3. I will admit confusion here about why manslaughter 2 would _not_ always automatically result in murder 2. Manslaughter 2 is a felony wherein you accidentally kill someone via negligence. Murder 2 is accidentally killing someone while committing another felony. So ISTM that murder 2 should always be chargeable when MS 2 is charged, but IANAL ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/47 "2021-04-21T11:53:29Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > And I wonder how long before laws are proposed making it a crime to videotape police “interactions.” No laws needed. If a cop doesn’t want to be filmed, they accuse you of interfering and arrest you, and “oops you dropped your phone under my boot heel while you were resisting arrest, right after my body cam mysteriously lost power.” ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/48 "2021-04-21T13:20:03Z")
i thought of the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/49 "2021-04-21T14:22:50Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > oops you dropped your phone under my boot heel while you were resisting arrest, right after my body cam mysteriously lost power.” That’s what the Cloud is for. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/50 "2021-04-22T03:43:57Z")
They have already tried to arrest people for that. “Interfering with a police investigation” or something. The courts are not amused. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401/51 "2021-04-22T04:09:46Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > [@Biffster](#): > > > > People believe because they’ve seen it for the last year on the news. > > Musing… we watched the Jan 6 riot _live_ as it happened, and still, many Repubs are saying we didn’t see what we saw… > [/off topic] Good point. Denial is everywhere. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chauvin-jury-has-reached-verdict-breaking-news/940401.md?page=2)