# Check out the trailer for the new Mad Max movie.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 10, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876 "2014-12-10T19:52:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/181 "2015-06-10T00:44:25Z")
> [@dzeiger](#): > > Finally saw this yesterday. > > For some reason it occurred to me that things kind of fit if Max is actually dead, doesn’t realize it himself, but is some sort of corporeal undead Ronin or something, wandering the world to try and help out those in need. > > He seems to be in the same age grouping as Fioriosa, roughly, but he was a cop before the apocalypse happened, and she was kidnapped into slavery as a child–he should be at least as old as the Vuvlalini, who barely remember satellites. > > (side note, even with no light pollution, would anything other than the old Iridium satellites really be visible?) > > He’s able to be used as a blood doner, transferring blood for what had to have been a couple hours at least, go through a crash in a storm that should have killed anyone, and similar crashes did kill everyone other than him and the guy he was giving blood to. Then he went through all the fighting of the rest of the movie, with no real chance to recover from the donation (including one scene where he vanishes into the mist, explosions happen, and he wanders back with loot). Then he donates more blood. Even in a setting that is more “rule of cool” than “concerned with strict realism,” that is pretty far out there. Don’t pay too much attention to the science/medical things in the film. My colleague was taken aback and the movie ruined when she tried to make sense of the breast milk and the production of it. Just take it all and enjoy the shiny. And explosions. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/182 "2015-06-10T01:01:51Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Don’t pay too much attention to the science/medical things in the film. My colleague was taken aback and the movie ruined when she tried to make sense of the breast milk and the production of it. > > Just take it all and enjoy the shiny. And explosions. 😃 I may or may not have snorted audibly when he cut the IV tubing that was still hooked into a large neck vein and didn’t bleed out. Shiny! Boom! Fire pretty! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/183 "2015-06-10T01:07:21Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I may or may not have snorted audibly when he cut the IV tubing that was still hooked into a large neck vein and didn’t bleed out. > > Shiny! Boom! Fire pretty! 😃 Yeah, and just a bit later he yanked that shit right out of his neck and I was all “apply a little pressure there for just a moment maybe? No? Really? Ok, then. Carry on!” ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/184 "2015-06-10T01:21:05Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > Yeah, and just a bit later he yanked that shit right out of his neck and I was all “apply a little pressure there for just a moment maybe? No? Really? Ok, then. Carry on!” Well, apparently his skin is made of sand resistant Kevlar, so perhaps his blood vessels are as well… ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/185 "2015-06-10T02:03:26Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Don’t pay too much attention to the science/medical things in the film. My colleague was taken aback and the movie ruined when she tried to make sense of the breast milk and the production of it. > > Just take it all and enjoy the shiny. And explosions. 😃 Oh, I’m not thinking about it as a serious dissertation, more of a casual idea that seemed a neat way of thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/186 "2015-06-10T02:06:01Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I may or may not have snorted audibly when he cut the IV tubing that was still hooked into a large neck vein and didn’t bleed out. I did appreciate that he had the tubing pinned to his collar for the rest of the movie, up until he used it to save Furiosa. Which made a lot of sense: ten feet of surgical tubing is probably pretty hard to find after the apocalypse, so you’d want to hang on to that shit if you’ve got it. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/187 "2015-06-10T02:08:23Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Well, apparently his skin is made of sand resistant Kevlar, so perhaps his blood vessels are as well… Yeah, that scene where he erupts out of the sand reminded me so hard of Prince of Egypt, or as my friends and I call it: Moses The Vengeful Poltergeist. Maybe everyone’s dead and Mad Max-land is Sheol / Gehenna. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/188 "2015-06-10T07:25:11Z")
One thing that confused me, the younger set of women, the wives/breeders were all INCREDIBLY good looking, doubly so for a post apocalyptic setting. How does this affect or not affect the feminist message of the movie? Obviously, there were strong women in the move, Charlie Theron and the other set of older women (plus the younger woman with long dark hair about Theron’s age). But what is the point of these super good looking women doing in _this_ movie? ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/189 "2015-06-10T09:22:47Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > One thing that confused me, the younger set of women, the wives/breeders were all INCREDIBLY good looking, doubly so for a post apocalyptic setting. How does this affect or not affect the feminist message of the movie? Obviously, there were strong women in the move, Charlie Theron and the other set of older women (plus the younger woman with long dark hair about Theron’s age). But what is the point of these super good looking women doing in _this_ movie? Eye candy? But it makes sense if you’re thinking these are the wives of the head honcho. As you pointed out, most of the other women shown were not as pretty and appeared rugged and dirty for the most part (minus the naked sentinel, I didn’t know they could still get wax treatment in this dystopia). 1. Just because it may have some feminist leanings doesn’t mean it also has some stuff to entice the male audience members. 2. Feminist leaning doesn’t mean everything has to have that bent, and even if it does, the women can be portrayed other than butch, dirty, old, fat, disabled, and minority. Women can be all that, as well as beautiful and incredibly good looking. 3. Is the implication that good looking cannot include feminist view? The good looking pregnant actress use her looks (and condition) as a shield to help Furiosa. It was at a high cost, but she was so determined in what she wanted that she risk it. Similar, the other hesitant woman used her looks to get back to Immortan and eventually sabotage him. I’m just glad that a film can be made like this, where the protagonist is a woman, many of the main ones are women, and it is still shiny and explosions! Oh so pretty! ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/190 "2015-06-10T09:29:24Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > Eye candy? But it makes sense if you’re thinking these are the wives of the head honcho. As you pointed out, most of the other women shown were not as pretty and appeared rugged and dirty for the most part (minus the naked sentinel, I didn’t know they could still get wax treatment in this dystopia). > > 1. Just because it may have some feminist leanings doesn’t mean it also has some stuff to entice the male audience members. > > 2. Feminist leaning doesn’t mean everything has to have that bent, and even if it does, the women can be portrayed other than butch, dirty, old, fat, disabled, and minority. Women can be all that, as well as beautiful and incredibly good looking. > > 3. Is the implication that good looking cannot include feminist view? The good looking pregnant actress use her looks (and condition) as a shield to help Furiosa. It was at a high cost, but she was so determined in what she wanted that she risk it. Similar, the other hesitant woman used her looks to get back to Immortan and eventually sabotage him. > > I’m just glad that a film can be made like this, where the protagonist is a woman, many of the main ones are women, and it is still shiny and explosions! Oh so pretty! Not to argue but your points would make more sense to me if one of the young women were super hot and the others were simply attractive. Having them all be superhot kind of makes it like every other movie hollywood makes… ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/191 "2015-06-10T11:26:20Z")
I can’t get over how the redhead wife, who had the thing with Nux, was played by Elvis’s granddaughter. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/192 "2015-06-10T15:36:47Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Not to argue but your points would make more sense to me if one of the young women were super hot and the others were simply attractive. Having them all be superhot kind of makes it like every other movie hollywood makes… But these women had been specially selected by Immortan Joe to be his wives. It seems to me that this fits perfectly with the feminist message of the film. If you are creating an archetypal misogynist dictator warlord, in a movie designed to show the shallowness and depravity of a particular type of man, then surely it makes sense that your misogynist dictator warlord would have plucked the most stunningly hot and attractive women from the thousands at his disposal. My wife’s a feminist academic, and is generally very critical of the way women are portrayed in a lot of Hollywood movies. She told me that she groaned a bit on the inside when she saw how hot the five women were, worried that it was just going to be another typical Hollywood eye candy flick, but by the end of the movie that concern had been completely rejected, and she believed that they were perfectly appropriate for the role. Of course, it probably helps the movie’s marketability that there are a bunch of really hot women wearing revealing outfits, but the feminist critique of the movie industry has never been _ **only** _ about the focus on young, attractive women; it has also been about the _ **types** _ of roles that women get. While these young women begin the movie as fairly typical waifs in distress, they adapt to their circumstances and play an ever-increasing role in the action. They fight, they get injured, and one of them ends up dead. They are also joined by a bunch of other women, some of them much older, who play a role in the fighting and also give their lives. And the main protagonist, the person who sets the whole narrative in motion and who essentially runs the whole show, is also a woman. For many feminists, the focus on women’s suffering but also on women’s agency and power, outweighs the fact that there were some hot young women in the film. ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/193 "2015-06-10T15:46:52Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > I don’t understand the rolling rock-concert rigs in the middle of this chase. At 1:46 there is a guy with a guitar standing on top of a truck with a stack of speakers like he’s at burning man. Am I the only one who was reminded of the intro to Rock Band when they saw the guitar playing guy in Mad Max? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_OKGMzmDZ0g/hqdefault.jpg "Rock Band Intro Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OKGMzmDZ0g) ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/194 "2015-06-10T16:23:26Z")
> [@KarlGrenze](#): > > (minus the naked sentinel, I didn’t know they could still get wax treatment in this dystopia). Sandblasting. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/195 "2015-06-10T20:24:48Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > But these women had been specially selected by Immortan Joe to be his wives. It seems to me that this fits perfectly with the feminist message of the film. > > If you are creating an archetypal misogynist dictator warlord, in a movie designed to show the shallowness and depravity of a particular type of man, then surely it makes sense that your misogynist dictator warlord would have plucked the most stunningly hot and attractive women from the thousands at his disposal. Agree. Except Immortus Joe had maybe a thousand people at his disposal, not thousands. No way would you find that many really really beautiful women in 1000 people even today and definitely not post apocalypse. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/196 "2015-06-11T00:26:08Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > Agree. Except Immortus Joe had maybe a thousand people at his disposal, not thousands. No way would you find that many really really beautiful women in 1000 people even today and definitely not post apocalypse. There were way more than a thousand people in that initial crowd trying to get water. More like 10k in the distance shots. And remember, he was apparently the king of the refinery and bullet farm as well. So maybe 20k to pick from? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/197 "2015-06-11T01:11:18Z")
And let’s face it, [The Dag](http://static3.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2213978.1431017772!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_400/madmax10f-4-web.jpg) wasn’t _that_ beautiful. So it’s only four out of 20K. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/198 "2015-06-11T01:12:36Z")
Everything is problematic. It’s the nature of the beast. The wives function for the audience as eye-candy (whatever other functions the characters serve) and that’s problematic. (Though _to my recollection_ there were not many (any?) classic objectification shots, so if I’m remembering that correctly, they were at least trying in this regard.) Also, the film presumes that it’s worse for a beautiful woman to be mistreated than for an ugly woman to be mistreated. Again, problematic. Everything is problematic and it’s fair–and necessary–to call out problems. But overall, I think the film represents _a great deal of hugely significant_ progress on the feminist front _ **if** _ it proves to be part of a trend. (If not, it represents a great symbolic victory but not much progress.) ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/199 "2015-06-11T02:19:10Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > There were way more than a thousand people in that initial crowd trying to get water. More like 10k in the distance shots. And remember, he was apparently the king of the refinery and bullet farm as well. So maybe 20k to pick from? And we know they raided other settlements and took women. And given that we have, what, half a tanker full of mother’s milk–so there’s probably quite a few more women than we saw producing the milk, and they’re probably perpetually pregnant in whatever sort of selective breeding program they can manage. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2015, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/200 "2015-06-11T08:55:07Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Also, the film presumes that it’s worse for a beautiful woman to be mistreated than for an ugly woman to be mistreated. Again, problematic. I didn’t see it that way. Joe raided other settements, so it is possible that he took women and children from them. That’s how they got Max. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876.md?page=11)