# Check out the trailer for the new Mad Max movie..

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 10, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876 "2014-12-10T19:52:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/61 "2015-05-14T00:59:06Z")

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> [@emarkp](#):
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> High-larious. Don’t hit your own chin with your knee when it jerks like that. Be sure to unwad your panties too.
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> I prefer my message movies as ABC after school specials, not summer blockbusters. It may be the case that the message doesn’t make the movie groanworthy. But I find it unlikely.

You keep digging there. You’re doing great!

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/62 "2015-05-14T02:34:47Z")

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So… aside from _that_. The number of reviews at RT has about doubled since that initial mention, and this is still at only one negative review; moreover, while a lot of movies that get high % are buoyed by a wide acclaim that it ‘might not be great but it’s definitely good’, all sorts of reviewers I normally agree with are calling this the defining action movie of the decade.

I thought this was going to be terrible… all indications were that it was going to be terrible. I am so confused (but excited!) right now.

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**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/63 "2015-05-14T02:56:32Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> A female in a lead role makes it a message movie? 😕😕😕

Remember when people used to read links? Sigh.

No, a female lead doesn’t mean that. I read half a dozen reviews that all talked about how feminist it was. And the author of VM was consulted on the film. That’s why I expect it to be a message movie (where the FEMINIST!!!1!!eleven message will overshadow the rest of the story). It may not be, but I’d give it better than 50/50 that it is.

> [@TroutMan](#):
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> And a tip: when you’re trying to convince us that your comment wasn’t sexist, it doesn’t help your case when you use “panties-wearer” as an attempted insult.

I wasn’t trying to convince you of anything, I was mocking your over-the-top response. (You know, getting your panties in a wad? It’s the wad that’s the important part. You compensating for something?)

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/64 "2015-05-14T03:17:17Z")

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I’m glad they had the cajones to keep the ‘R’ rating for a summer blockbuster. Wonder if that will hurt it at the box office?

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/65 "2015-05-14T04:12:25Z")

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> [@emarkp](#):
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> (You know, getting your panties in a wad? It’s the wad that’s the important part. You compensating for something?)

I assume I’m supposed to be offended, but I’m mostly just baffled.

> [@Hampshire](#):
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> I’m glad they had the cajones to keep the ‘R’ rating for a summer blockbuster. Wonder if that will hurt it at the box office?

I’m glad too. It was never going to be an Avengers-level box office or family movie. I don’t think it will hurt it much. Making it PG13 would have cut some viewers on the other side who don’t want something watered down.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/66 "2015-05-14T06:25:26Z")

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[The usual suspects are calling for a boycott](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/13/mens-rights-activists-mad-max_n_7276144.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592).

Personally, I’d reserve judgment until after actually watching the thing. Reviews are never good sources.

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**Author:** ![GovernmentMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GovernmentMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GovernmentMan)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/67 "2015-05-14T08:27:04Z")

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> [@Kiros](#):
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> I thought this was going to be terrible… all indications were that it was going to be terrible. I am so confused (but excited!) right now.

What were these indications?

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/68 "2015-05-14T09:33:31Z")

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> [@GovernmentMan](#):
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> What were these indications?

I’d like to know too. For me, all indications from when I first heard about it months ago were that it was going to be awesome. George Miller? Check! Tom Hardy? Check! Charlize Theron? Check! Holy fuck, I am so there! What do you mean it doesn’t come out until May of 2015??? Daaaaamn!

> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> [The usual suspects are calling for a boycott](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/13/mens-rights-activists-mad-max_n_7276144.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592).

That’s hilarious!

> [@emarkp](#):
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> No, a female lead doesn’t mean that. I read half a dozen reviews that all talked about how feminist it was. And the author of VM was consulted on the film. That’s why I expect it to be a message movie (where the FEMINIST!!!1!!eleven message will overshadow the rest of the story). It may not be, but I’d give it better than 50/50 that it is.

If a woman does anything in an action movie besides fuck, suck, cook and pop out babies it’s going to be a message movie? What’s the message? “Hey look at this shit, willya?! This movie is showing that women can, like, do other stuff! Like, you know, DRIVE, and stuff like that! That’s a bad influence on our kids! We’re trying to raise PROPER sexist pig men and know-their-place women!”

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/69 "2015-05-14T10:18:03Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> [The usual suspects are calling for a boycott](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/13/mens-rights-activists-mad-max_n_7276144.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592).

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> Because if they sheepishly attend and ‘Fury Road’ is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or **moray** about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.

Fucking eels! I had no idea they were feminists.

And I’m really into SJW-ing. Whatever that is.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/70 "2015-05-14T13:41:27Z")

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> [@GovernmentMan](#):
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> What were these indications?

A sequel to a long-dormant series, where the last entry was pretty bad, and where the director/writer hasn’t done anything particularly good for over 30 years\*? An action movie reboot that no one was really asking for that touches a couple of currently-popular genres, in an early/pre-summer release slot? That trailer? It’s not like this _never_ goes well, but the range of likely outcomes is weighted to the negative.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m quite happy with this. I see what most people would call a ton of movies - in other words, probably a quarter or third of what **Equipoise** sees in a given year - and I’m always happy when there are more good films to see.

\*Notwithstanding those who celebrate Babe: Pig in the City as the misunderstood masterpiece of modern cinema.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/71 "2015-05-14T14:38:17Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Fucking eels! I had no idea they were feminists.

No one ever suspects the eels.

> [@](#):
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> And I’m really into SJW-ing. Whatever that is.

Social Justice Warrior-ing. An insult for those who believe social justice is a bad thing.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/72 "2015-05-14T15:55:46Z")

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I have no problem with the movie having a feminist spin (if it does). That’s fine. I do have a problem with deceptive advertising. Advertising this as a MAD MAX (!!) movie and then relegating that character to a supporting role (which I understand to be the case) is pretty underhanded.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/73 "2015-05-14T16:00:40Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> [The usual suspects are calling for a boycott](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/13/mens-rights-activists-mad-max_n_7276144.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592).

> [@some internet dipshit](#):
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> …men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.

_American_ culture? How the fuck is anything about this franchise American?

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/74 "2015-05-14T16:23:33Z")

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As long as the message is wrapped in a good, long, violent, post-apocalyptic car chase; the message can be “Look at what a total bastard scabpicker is! Get HIM!”, I’ll still be able to take what I want from it.

And really, after the first movie, Max is just a character or agent that’s moving through other people’s stories.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/75 "2015-05-14T16:24:37Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Advertising this as a MAD MAX (!!) movie and then relegating that character to a supporting role (which I understand to be the case) is pretty underhanded.

I haven’t seen the movie yet so I’m basing this simply on reviews (same as you), but I think you might be taking the “Mad Max is only a supporting character” too far. What I’ve seen suggests not that he’s a bit player, but that Furiosa is just as ass-kicking as Max. Even the [_Slate_ review](http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/movies/2015/05/george_miller_s_mad_max_fury_road_reviewed.html), which plays up the feminist angle more than many, describes it more in the context that Max isn’t the only one who can rescue the damsels in distress.

> [@](#):
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> Furiosa manages to come across as a real and touching character despite being given very little backstory. In fact, if the movie has a central protagonist, it’s Furiosa, not Max. Hardy’s character remains more indistinct, perhaps because he’s usually (sometimes comically) placed in positions of extreme passivity; for instance, he spends most of one long chase sequence suspended upside down from the window of a moving vehicle, his ankles secured only by Furiosa’s metal-enhanced grip.

I can see how some might read that as “Max is weak and unimportant,” but I read that as “it’s not _only_ about Max, men aren’t the only ones who can kick ass, and women aren’t the only ones who need assistance.”

And really, from the first installment, Mad Max has been about the cars and chases, and nothing I’ve seen in any reviews suggests those parts get short shrift. The _Slate_ reviewer didn’t love the non-stop action but certainly appreciated it for what it was. It sounds like if this is “message movie,” the main message is that it’s cool to blow shit up.

> [@](#):
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> Most of all, though, Mad Max: Fury Road is about the cars, the costumes, and the generally whacked-out production design… These design details, executed with wit, imagination, and care, gave me something to appreciate even when the adrenaline from the nonstop virtuosic car stunts started to run dry around the 45-minute point… There will be viewers who will thrill to every pulse-pumping, fuel-tank-exploding second of Mad Max: Fury Road. I wasn’t one of them, but it’s impossible not to appreciate the septuagenarian Miller’s boundless energy and investment.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/76 "2015-05-14T16:36:28Z")

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The problem is that at least some people who pay their hard-earned money to see a _MAD MAX!!!_ movie are going to have a reasonable expectation that Mad Max is the hero of the movie.

If the movie is really _FURIOSA!!! (with Mad Max)_ then be honest enough to advertise it that way.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/77 "2015-05-14T16:36:39Z")

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I don’t understand the rolling rock-concert rigs in the middle of this chase. At 1:46 there is a guy with a guitar standing on top of a truck with a stack of speakers like he’s at burning man.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/78 "2015-05-14T16:49:43Z")

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Look at the cast on IMDB. Charlize Theron, Rose Huntington-Whitely, and Zoe Kravitz. All three seem like they would appeal to men, they appeal to me. 😃

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/79 "2015-05-14T16:56:05Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> I don’t understand the rolling rock-concert rigs in the middle of this chase. At 1:46 there is a guy with a guitar standing on top of a truck with a stack of speakers like he’s at burning man.

Keep your troops motivated and -heh- driven with music… been done for thousands of years.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/check-out-the-trailer-for-the-new-mad-max-movie/706876/80 "2015-05-14T16:56:37Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> I don’t understand the rolling rock-concert rigs in the middle of this chase. At 1:46 there is a guy with a guitar standing on top of a truck with a stack of speakers like he’s at burning man.

You might be looking too deeply for meaning. A review mentions “…a fleet of vehicles so freakishly elaborate that one of them includes an electric guitarist suspended from its front as a living hood ornament, shredding away as the dusty miles fly by.” Your comparison to Burning Man is apt. The characters trick out their vehicles for the same reasons that Burners do.

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