# Cheeky or what? Gay bar next to Ground Zero mosque

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 17, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516 "2010-08-17T12:30:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/1 "2010-08-17T12:30:41Z")

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Story [here](http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpps/news/gregg-gutfeld-says-he-plans-to-open-gay-bar-next-to-mosque-dpgoha-20100811-fc_9115661).

Gave me a chuckle.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/2 "2010-08-17T12:48:48Z")

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It’s a joke. If it were real I’d say go for it, but it’s just another guy being a jerk on Fox. (And Fox is covering itself in the process - there’s a stunner.) And come to think of it isn’t that area sacred ground? How can they build a gay bar on that?

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/3 "2010-08-17T12:55:29Z")

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> Gutfeld is also looking for names for the bar which can be submitted on his blog and says he “will have the plan together very soon!”

The Allahu Ak Bar? Okay, mebbe not.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/4 "2010-08-17T13:01:12Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> > Gutfeld is also looking for names for the bar which can be submitted on his blog and says he “will have the plan together very soon!”
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> The Allahu Ak Bar? Okay, mebbe not.

Priceless. 😃

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/5 "2010-08-17T13:03:41Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> > Gutfeld is also looking for names for the bar which can be submitted on his blog and says he “will have the plan together very soon!”
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> The Allahu Ak Bar? Okay, mebbe not.

I was going to suggest **Mo’s** , but you win.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/6 "2010-08-17T13:36:14Z")

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I think Ak-Bar is great. The tag-line could be, “It’s a trap!”

How about Fistambul? Or Swish-Tar?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/7 "2010-08-17T13:39:22Z")

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There’s a gay bar in LA called Akbar, but I don’t think it’s near a mosque. It’s Middle Eastern themed, though. Does that count?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/8 "2010-08-17T13:48:28Z")

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Can I just say how surreal it is to see Right-wingers cheering the proposed building of a gay bar?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/9 "2010-08-17T13:57:48Z")

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As supportive as I am about some Muslims building a cultural center near ground zero, I have to admit this is an interesting thought experiment.

Perhaps the way to handle it is similar to how highway commissions have handled it when the KKK have wanted to ‘tend’ stretches of highway - “This piece of highway is maintained by the Ku Klux Klan” - rename the piece of road to Martin Luther King Memorial Highway.

If the street they want to build the cultural center on was renamed 'Honorary Golda Meir Avenue," would they still want to build it?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/10 "2010-08-17T14:02:56Z")

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Is “Fruit of Islam” taken?

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> If the street they want to build the cultural center on was renamed 'Honorary Golda Meir Avenue," would they still want to build it?

[There’s already a Golda Meir Square further uptown.](http://newyorkcitystatues.com/golda-meir/) The author of the page points out that there are usually halal cart vendors nearby. In any case, if the group behind the 51Park building is the tolerant kind of organization they say they are, I don’t see why they would care.

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**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/11 "2010-08-17T14:11:42Z")

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Cool. Let’s put one next to Fox headquarters, too!

(Dang, can’t think of a good name for that one, though. “Undercovers”? “The ‘I’m Just Doing Research’ Bar”? “Hypocrites”?)

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/12 "2010-08-17T14:23:25Z")

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> [@Quercus](#):
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> Cool. Let’s put one next to Fox headquarters, too!
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> (Dang, can’t think of a good name for that one, though. “Undercovers”? “The ‘I’m Just Doing Research’ Bar”? “Hypocrites”?)

The Back Door.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/13 "2010-08-17T14:26:11Z")

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Fox and Friends?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/14 "2010-08-17T14:26:49Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@lieu](#):
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> > The Allahu Ak Bar? Okay, mebbe not.
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> I was going to suggest **Mo’s** , but you win.

Flaming Mo’s.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/15 "2010-08-17T14:35:11Z")

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Ilikkum Salami

Fat Twaht

Hummer d’ Allah

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/16 "2010-08-17T14:55:14Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Fat Twaht

I don’t think gay guys want to go in there. For a certain type of lesbian bar, maybe.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/17 "2010-08-17T15:07:36Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Flaming Mo’s.

Applause.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/18 "2010-08-17T15:43:32Z")

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Faux Nudes.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/19 "2010-08-17T16:28:54Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> As supportive as I am about some Muslims building a cultural center near ground zero, I have to admit this is an interesting thought experiment.

The answer is the same: if they don’t like having it next door, tough. The Muslims have the same right to build their cultural center as the guy does to build his gay bar.

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> If the street they want to build the cultural center on was renamed 'Honorary Golda Meir Avenue," would they still want to build it?

Probably they would. The people involved with the mosque are committed to multcultural understanding.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/20 "2010-08-17T16:33:06Z")

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