# Cheeky or what? Gay bar next to Ground Zero mosque

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 17, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516 "2010-08-17T12:30:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/21 "2010-08-17T16:36:32Z")

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The best one I’ve heard so far is “Outfidels”.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/22 "2010-08-17T16:53:41Z")

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You’d get a lot of baseball stars that way I bet.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/23 "2010-08-17T16:59:33Z")

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I think we’re all overlooking the obvious, and it’s in the subject line.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/24 "2010-08-17T17:17:25Z")

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River Styx

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/25 "2010-08-17T18:02:43Z")

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The Big Apple Bottom.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/26 "2010-08-17T18:24:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> In any case, if the group behind the 51Park building is the tolerant kind of organization they say they are, I don’t see why they would care.

The neighborhood in question ALREADY has lingerie stores, peep shows, liquor stores, and bars. I doubt the people behind the new cultural center will care if someone opens one more.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/27 "2010-08-17T18:40:19Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Can I just say how surreal it is to see Right-wingers cheering the proposed building of a gay bar?

Ann Coulter will be hosting [Homocon](http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/06/ann-coulter-to-headline-party-for-gay-conservatives/) in New York City next month.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/28 "2010-08-17T18:43:16Z")

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Screw the gay bar. Put in a good bbq place next door. One that does it old school, with all that delicious smelling pig-tainted smoke drifting over the faithful.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/29 "2010-08-17T18:43:55Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> > [@Marley23](#):
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> > In any case, if the group behind the 51Park building is the tolerant kind of organization they say they are, I don’t see why they would care.
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> The neighborhood in question ALREADY has lingerie stores, peep shows, liquor stores, and bars. I doubt the people behind the new cultural center will care if someone opens one more.

I was referring to the “Golda Meir Avenue” idea there. Come to think of it, we’re talking about lower Manhattan. There are definitely Jewish religious and community centers in the area. I don’t think there are any on that street, but if the Sufis didn’t want to be near anything Jew-ey they wouldn’t be there in the first place.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/30 "2010-08-17T19:20:38Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Screw the gay bar. Put in a good bbq place next door. One that does it old school, with all that delicious smelling pig-tainted smoke drifting over the faithful.

There’s already a restaurant/bar right next door to 51 Park – The Dakota Roadhouse at 43 Park. I don’t know if they serve BBQ though.

Seriously, this game of “let’s teach the Muslims a lesson by putting something they’ll hate next door” is silly. They’re building in Lower Manhattan. The neighborhood is already a crowded jumble of businesses, some that might seem bizarre to find next door to a church or temple in a less-dense community.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/31 "2010-08-17T19:21:54Z")

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> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#):
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> Seriously, this game of “let’s teach the Muslims a lesson by putting something they’ll hate next door” is silly.

At least it’s not as stupid as holding pig races next door or bringing your dogs to a protest.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/32 "2010-08-17T20:28:31Z")

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Or gluing the Koran to airport floors.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/33 "2010-08-17T20:31:58Z")

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> [@Quercus](#):
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> Cool. Let’s put one next to Fox headquarters, too!
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> (Dang, can’t think of a good name for that one, though. “Undercovers”? “The ‘I’m Just Doing Research’ Bar”? “Hypocrites”?)

Excellent idea. Think of the business it would do with the closeted conservatives who drop in to Fox to condemn sin.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/34 "2010-08-17T20:43:40Z")

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Cool, let’s build a mosque, a gay bar ,a foxnews outlet, and maybe a Zionest outreach,and a communist party headquarters all at ground zero, and put up a camera to watch the resulting battle of the five armies.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/35 "2010-08-17T21:28:52Z")

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[According to this,](http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/how_to_not_look_like_a_total_moron/), Yelp lists three gay bars within a tenth of a mile of the Cordoba House site. So they’re not being nearly as cheeky as they think they are.

That said, by favorite proposed names for the bar were The Ba’ath House, Suspicious Package, and Jihard.

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**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/36 "2010-08-17T21:54:06Z")

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On the other side of the mosque, I’m going to open up a Halal cafe and call it the _Allahu Snackbar._

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/37 "2010-08-17T22:45:50Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> Cool, let’s build a mosque, a gay bar ,a foxnews outlet, and maybe a Zionest outreach,and a communist party headquarters all at ground zero, and put up a camera to watch the resulting battle of the five armies.

So a communist mosque, a Zionist gay bar, and a foxnews coat outlet move into lower Manhattan . . . .

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/38 "2010-08-17T22:51:19Z")

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\*Tent Pitchers

The Five Pillars\*

Names for its drag queens:

\*Sharia Laws

Fatima Makata

Kaaba Kameleon\*

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**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/39 "2010-08-17T22:54:42Z")

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When people complain about something of any certain persuasion (Muslim, strip club, Baptist, peep show, gay club…) being built in proximity to something in NYC, I wonder if they have ever actually _been_ to NYC.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/40 "2010-08-18T16:36:23Z")

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You know- the people who want to build the community center/mosque keep comparing their plan to a YMCA. So building a gay bar next to it might be redundant.

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