# Cheeky or what? Gay bar next to Ground Zero mosque **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 17, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516 "2010-08-17T12:30:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/41 "2010-08-18T17:49:11Z")
The so called mosque/community center was going to have a commemorative plaque to 911. I hope they get it built. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/42 "2010-08-18T18:00:43Z")
Since the building has been vacant since 9/12/01 I hope they build something there. ---
**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/43 "2010-08-18T20:21:52Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Screw the gay bar. The whole bar? That’s awfully ambitious of you, **Oakie**. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/44 "2010-08-18T21:34:50Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > There’s already a restaurant/bar right next door to 51 Park – The Dakota Roadhouse at 43 Park. I don’t know if they serve BBQ though. > > Seriously, this game of “let’s teach the Muslims a lesson by putting something they’ll hate next door” is silly. They’re building in Lower Manhattan. The neighborhood is already a crowded jumble of businesses, some that might seem bizarre to find next door to a church or temple in a less-dense community. What is the lesson, anyway, and why does it need to be taught? (Not directed at you, HK, just in general.) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/45 "2010-08-19T02:32:41Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You know- the people who want to build the community center/mosque keep comparing their plan to a YMCA. So building a gay bar next to it might be redundant. Can you imagine trying to make the Arabic letters for YMCA with your hands when you dance? You’d strain something. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/46 "2010-08-19T10:07:33Z")
Haven’t they just become “The Y” anyway? > [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#): > > What is the lesson, anyway That at heart the American public are a bunch of giggling schoolchildren. Actually, I suspect that at heart most people everywhere are giggling schoolchildren. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/47 "2010-08-19T13:49:44Z")
> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#): > > > [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > > > There’s already a restaurant/bar right next door to 51 Park – The Dakota Roadhouse at 43 Park. I don’t know if they serve BBQ though. > > > > Seriously, this game of “let’s teach the Muslims a lesson by putting something they’ll hate next door” is silly. They’re building in Lower Manhattan. The neighborhood is already a crowded jumble of businesses, some that might seem bizarre to find next door to a church or temple in a less-dense community. > > What is the lesson, anyway, and why does it need to be taught? (Not directed at you, HK, just in general.) The purported lesson is to teach those Muslims what it’s like to have to be near something you don’t like. See, they’re putting a cultural center (MOSQUE!) near (AT!) Ground Zero, and all right-thinking Americans don’t like it. So we teach them what it’s like. It’s like having a bunch of showtune singing old guys with loud smoker’s laughs living next to you. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/48 "2010-08-19T14:40:59Z")
If that’s the case, instead of a gay bar, what about a $cientology center? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/49 "2010-08-19T14:47:17Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > > [@Marley23](#): > > > > You know- the people who want to build the community center/mosque keep comparing their plan to a YMCA. So building a gay bar next to it might be redundant. > > Can you imagine trying to make the Arabic letters for YMCA with your hands when you dance? You’d strain something. Wouldn’t be too hard as long as you ignored the dots. Probably something like: left arm held at 90 degrees, right arm straight out one arm curled over your head, other arm down one arm curled over your head other arm straight out one arm straight up, other arm down. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/50 "2010-08-19T15:31:09Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > If that’s the case, instead of a gay bar, what about a $cientology center? Because a gay bar, or even a bbq joint, would be good natured fun. Scientology is just evil. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/51 "2010-08-19T15:48:06Z")
Ahmadinejad already made it clear there are no gays in the middle east. He would not lie. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/52 "2010-08-19T16:16:55Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > It’s a joke. If it were real I’d say go for it, but it’s just another guy being a jerk on Fox. (And Fox is covering itself in the process - there’s a stunner.) And come to think of it isn’t that area sacred ground? How can they build a gay bar on that? I don’t know if it’s a joke or not, but he says it’s not. And it’s not “sacred ground.” The Islamic Center is planned for two blocks from the WTC site. “Gutfeld said his reasoning for opening the gay bar is twofold: first, to break down barriers of homosexual phobia, as the Muslim faith does not accept the homosexual lifestyle.” Is he also going to build a gay bar next to a Catholic church? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516/53 "2010-08-19T16:27:11Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > > [@Marley23](#): > > > > It’s a joke. If it were real I’d say go for it, but it’s just another guy being a jerk on Fox. (And Fox is covering itself in the process - there’s a stunner.) And come to think of it isn’t that area sacred ground? How can they build a gay bar on that? > > I don’t know if it’s a joke or not, but he says it’s not. [“Greg Gutfeld (born September 12, 1964(1964-09-12)) is an American libertarian television personality, political satirist, humorist, magazine editor and blogger. He currently is the host of Red Eye w/ Greg Gutfeld on the Fox News Channel.”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Gutfeld) If you’re serious about opening a bar in that area you don’t just go on TV one day and announce that you’re going to do it. You need to have a business model, get some investors, and buy property. And you don’t do that kind of thing just to spite someone else. The Cordoba Initiative bought the warehouse for almost $5 million. This guy is making a joke. > [@](#): > > And it’s not “sacred ground.” The Islamic Center is planned for two blocks from the WTC site. No shit. I was saying that since people who are against the center - including Gutfield, perhaps - say the area is “sacred ground,” wouldn’t building a gay bar there be almost as bad as building a Victory Mosque? “Gutfeld said his reasoning for opening the gay bar is twofold: first, to break down barriers of homosexual phobia, as the Muslim faith does not accept the homosexual lifestyle.” Is he also going to build a gay bar next to a Catholic church? [/QUOTE] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheeky-or-what-gay-bar-next-to-ground-zero-mosque/550516.md?page=2)