# Cheese and pickle sandwich (British) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [June 28, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016 "2022-06-28T02:50:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/261 "2022-12-05T17:03:34Z")
They must be chutnies- jams/fruit preserves are in a different aisle. This aisle is all savoury preserves and pickled things (onions/jalapeños/olives) and sauces for meat dishes such as mint, mustard, horseradish etc. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/262 "2022-12-05T19:58:37Z")
Yeah, they say something like “onion and szechwan pepper” on them. Which is interesting; I’m only familiar with that brand for their fruit jams and jellies. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/263 "2022-12-05T20:10:22Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Yeah, they say something like “onion and szechwan pepper” on them. > > Which is interesting; I’m only familiar with that brand for their fruit jams and jellies . **[Good eye](https://www.bonnemaman.co.uk/products/chutneys)**. [![](https://www.bonnemaman.co.uk/img/containers/main/img/products/chutney/onion-chutney.png/62b13138654e82b0e7ec695a7e6e56be.png) ](https://www.bonnemaman.co.uk/img/containers/main/img/products/chutney/onion-chutney.png/62b13138654e82b0e7ec695a7e6e56be.png) [![](https://www.bonnemaman.co.uk/img/containers/main/img/products/chutney/violet-fig-chutney.png/ad205add8a70cb2a6be29f728503c580.png) ](https://www.bonnemaman.co.uk/img/containers/main/img/products/chutney/violet-fig-chutney.png/ad205add8a70cb2a6be29f728503c580.png) ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/264 "2022-12-05T20:12:50Z")
Wow… you guys get a lot of other products from them. I just checked the US website, and it’s all fruit preserves/jams/jellies, and lemon curd. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/265 "2022-12-05T20:17:44Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Wow… you guys get a lot of other products from them. I just checked the US website, and it’s all fruit preserves/jams/jellies, and lemon curd . The difference in naming is interesting. I knew, academically, that “jelly” doesn’t mean the same thing in the UK as in the US … but I was still surprised that none of Bonne Maman’s fruit spreads sold in the UK are called “preserves” either. So … it’s “conserve”, then? I wonder if there are subtle differences between “fruit preserves” and “fruit conserve”? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/266 "2022-12-05T20:20:11Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > I wonder if there are subtle differences between “fruit preserves” and “fruit conserve”? “Conserve”’is French for “preserves.” ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/267 "2022-12-05T20:24:33Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > “Conserve” is French for “preserves.” … now I wonder if French “confiture” is the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/268 "2022-12-05T20:27:17Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > French “confiture” “Confiture” is French for U.S. jam/jelly and U.K. jam. ---
**Author:** ![Fortyfold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7c8e57/32.png) [@Fortyfold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fortyfold)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/269 "2022-12-05T22:13:03Z")
I know that ‘jam’ has a specific regulatory meaning in the UK, which needs 60% sugar (as a preservative). Don’t know if there are other legal naming requirements. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/270 "2022-12-06T02:07:57Z")
The orchard fruit and Mediterranean tomato chutneys sound interesting. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/271 "2022-12-06T02:35:06Z")
I suspect anyone dentally challenged like me would welcome a nice jar of smooth pickle. I have a jar of the finely chopped kind in my pantry. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/272 "2022-12-06T15:09:27Z")
I think there’s something like that in the US as well; that’s why we have a lot of fruit “spreads” available; their higher fruit content precludes their listing as jams, jellies, or preserves. That’s always kind of amused me; typically I’d have associated a higher fruit content with a better quality product, and something like “fruit spread” would be some sort of cut-rate crap that’s like 20% of the actual labeled fruit, another 20% other fruit juices, and the rest being sugar, pectin and corn syrup. But it’s not like that- “fruit spread” is something with more fruit/less sugar than allowed by the regulations. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/273 "2022-12-06T15:36:48Z")
It’s a food safety issue. The traditional point of many jams, jellies, preserves, etc was to preserve the food longer. Without enough sugar, they aren’t as shelf stable. Likewise ‘pickle’ (TIL this exists as a thing) and other pickled goods. The ‘fresher’ they are, the higher quality they may be but they will definitely spoil faster. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/274 "2022-12-06T22:41:34Z")
I know that you can make a viable apple butter with no other ingredients at all, just apples. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/275 "2022-12-07T12:45:22Z")
I make applesauce with apples and a tablespoon of water. If I continue simmering the applesauce it will become more like apple butter, but I never go that far. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016.md?page=13)