# Cheese and pickle sandwich (British) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [June 28, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016 "2022-06-28T02:50:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/161 "2022-10-06T04:38:36Z")
I love ham and jam on buttered toast, but I had a girlfriend who thought it was disgusting. That relationship didn’t last long. Good thing I didn’t mention the Spam… 🥺 ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/162 "2022-10-06T12:28:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > The US does not have anything we call “bully beef”. The only time Americans ever use the term “bully” is for a child or person with the maturity of a child who harasses others for amusement. And of course, Teddy Roosevelt is famous for using _“bully”_ as an exclamation of commendation. _Bully for you!_ ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/163 "2022-10-06T12:39:54Z")
Bully beef (corned beef): > **[Bully beef](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bully_beef)** > > Bully beef (also known as corned beef in the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, Singapore, Indonesia and other Commonwealth countries as well as the United States) is a variety of meat made from finely minced corned beef in a small amount of gelatin. The name "bully beef" likely comes from the French bouilli (meaning "boiled") in Napoleonic times, or possibly from the head of a bull depicted on the popular Hereford brand of canned corned beef. The cans have a distinctive oblong shape. Bully beef ... Corned beef (salt beef): > **[Corned beef](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corned_beef)** > > Corned beef, or salt beef in some of the Commonwealth of Nations, is salt-cured brisket of beef. The term comes from the treatment of the meat with large-grained rock salt, also called "corns" of salt. Sometimes, sugar and spices are added to corned beef recipes. Corned beef is featured as an ingredient in many cuisines. > Most recipes include nitrates, which convert the natural myoglobin in beef to nitrosomyoglobin, giving it a pink color. Nitrates and nitrites reduce the risk of dangerous botu... ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/164 "2022-10-06T12:57:09Z")
From the second Wikipedia link above: > In the United States and Canada, corned beef is typically available in two forms: a cut of beef (usually brisket, but sometimes round or [silverside](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverside_(beef))) cured or pickled in a seasoned brine, or cooked and canned. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/165 "2022-10-06T12:57:32Z")
I like thin sliced off the bone turkey sandwiches with cheese and spicy pickle chips, and cheddar is one of my favs that I use most of the time. That’s ALMOST a cheese and pickle sandwich, so I can see the attraction. I may eliminate the turkey slices and just try the cheese and pickles. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Branston pickles, though. I hope it’s not a culinary sin if I use “Famous Dave’s Devil’s Spit Pickle Chips”. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/166 "2022-10-06T13:12:25Z")
Meijer and Mariano’s here in the Chicago area will often have Branston Pickle in their foreign section. I’ve seen it randomly at other groceries, but those are my go-tos. CostPlus World Market would also usually have it. It’s pretty different from what Americans think of as pickles, not being made of cucumbers but mostly root vegetables. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/167 "2022-10-06T13:24:58Z")
Thanks for the info! I’ll try, but Mariano’s here has really declined. They don’t have a “foreign section” anymore and they’ve dropped a lot of the unique products that dramatically separated them from the other super market chains like, say, Jewel’s. I believe Kroger bought Mariano’s and is slowly degrading it. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/168 "2022-10-06T14:44:50Z")
Yeah, Mariano’s got bought out a number of years ago (2015 sez Google) and it has lost a lot of its character. The one in the South Loop is still fairly reasonable. At any rate, now that I think about it, I haven’t bought Branston pickle from Mariano’s in a long while, so they may not have it anymore. When I need to restock, I go to the Meijer in Bolingbrook, which has its own British shelves in the international section containing things like Marmite, Jaffa cakes, Devonshire cream, spotted dick, Heinz beans and the like. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/169 "2022-10-06T14:53:52Z")
Yum! Sounds divine, but that is one heck of a ride for me. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/170 "2022-10-06T15:14:31Z")
In case you do find Branston pickle, it’s not “pickles” in the typical American sense. It’s more akin to a chutney, meaning that it’s chunks of various crunchy vegetables in a dark, tangy, sweet, (and a bit funky) sauce. Kind of like a really strange pickle relish to American tastes. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/171 "2022-10-06T15:16:35Z")
Ah! Lucky you said something, otherwise I would have been totally confused. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/172 "2022-10-06T15:17:38Z")
Looks like the Jewel at Irving Park & Naragansett also has it, but I seem to remember you’re on the other side of town, so that doesn’t help. And all the CostPluses are a drive, too. (And, hey, I said as much: " It’s pretty different from what Americans think of as pickles, not being made of cucumbers but mostly root vegetables.") Here’s what a teaspoon of it looks like: [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Branston_Pickle_close-up.jpg/220px-Branston_Pickle_close-up.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Branston_Pickle_close-up.jpg/220px-Branston_Pickle_close-up.jpg) It’s mostly rutabaga, carrots, onion, cauliflower, and some other stuff. Upthread I mention I’ve seen “marrow” (a type of summer squash) in the ingredients before, so I don’t know if there’s different versions for different markets, or the recipe has shifted over time based on availability of vegetables. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/173 "2022-10-06T15:21:18Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Looks like the Jewel at Irving Park & Naragansett also has it, but I seem to remember you’re on the other side of town, so that doesn’t help. And all the CostPluses are a drive, too. Just found it on Amazon Prime! Ba-da, ba-da, ba-da, BOOM! DONE! 🙂 Sorry! LOL ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/174 "2022-10-06T15:22:00Z")
Oh, yes. You can find almost anything on Amazon. I figured that was a given. It’s usually about $6-$8 for a 12 oz-ish jar at the brick & mortars. (Looking on Amazon, you can get a 2-pack for almost the low end of this price per unit, so why schlep all the way across Chicagoland? 🙂 ) ---
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My jar says “Vegetables in Variable Proportions (52%) (Carrot, Rutabaga, Onion, Cauliflower)”. The rest of the ingredients in order are: Sugar, barley malt vinegar, water, spirit vinegar, tomato puree, date paste (dates, rice flour), salt, apple pulp, Modified maize starch, color (sulphite ammonia caramel), onion powder, concentrated lemon juice, spices, coloring food (roasted barley malt extract), herb and spice extracts. I like it. I haven’t really figured out what else to eat it with, other than the traditional ploughman’s lunch and/or cheese & pickle sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/176 "2022-10-06T15:30:53Z")
Yeah, that’s the same jar I have. Years ago, I’ve seen marrow. Like this product information here includes both marrow and cucumbers in the pickle: > **[Branston Original Pickle 340g](https://www.brfoods.gr/shop/brfoods/branston-original-pickle-520g)** > > Description > > Suitable for vegetarians. Sweet pickle The Original and The Best Made in the same unique Branston way since 1922, there's no mistaking Branston Original sweet pickle. Have you tried? Branston Beetroot Pickle for a tasty alternative? For... > - Vegetables in variable proportions (Carrots, Rutabaga, Onions, Cauliflower, Marrows, Gherkins), ---
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> [@pulykamell](#): > > I figured that was a given. You would think so. LOL Okay, “in for a penny, in for a pound”, so I just ordered some aged cheddar (10 years), also. If this is really good, I have a discussion treat for future guests! Jasmine (looking and sounding worldly): “Oh, try some of this. It is a British treat!” ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/178 "2022-10-06T15:34:26Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I haven’t really figured out what else to eat it with, other than the traditional ploughman’s lunch and/or cheese & pickle sandwich. I put it in sandwiches, myself. I’ve also had it in some sort of savory rolled pastry, perhaps with sausages? Or maybe it was just with cheese. But Branston’s got ideas for you! > **[Recipes & Meal Ideas from Pickle Pioneers | Branston](https://www.bringoutthebranston.co.uk/recipes/)** > > Discover a range of delicious recipes and inspirational meal ideas with pickle from Branston, from cottage pie to mouthwatering marinated chicken. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/179 "2022-10-06T15:54:53Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > (Looking on Amazon, you can get a 2-pack for almost the low end of this price per unit, so why schlep all the way across Chicagoland? 🙂 ) As I noted above, the shipping charge for the ones I found on Amazon was unreasonably high. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016/180 "2022-10-06T16:06:36Z")
Yeah, for my location, it’s free Prime delivery, $13.30 for a 2-pack of 360g Branston Pickle, delivery by Saturday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-and-pickle-sandwich-british/967016.md?page=10)