# "Cheese-eating surrender monkeys"
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [January 27, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340 "2003-01-27T21:49:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/1 "2003-01-27T21:49:20Z")
Think about what referring to French people as “cheese eating surrender monkeys” really is. Maybe I’ve had a humour bypass, but it sounds like bigotry to me. I don’t think it’s funny to continually disparage a whole nation on the basis of something that happened over fifty years ago. It’s history. Get over it. Laughing at those stupid French people. Hur hur hur.
It’s not acceptable any more to laugh about how all Germans are Nazis. We’re all enlightened enough to say “Hey, that was a long time ago, The Germans can be groovy people now”. Offer the same courtesy to French people. Outdated and offensive stereotypes aren’t funny any more.
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/2 "2003-01-27T21:54:01Z")
Of course Germans can be groovy people. As long as you aren’t Polish.
d&r
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### Author:  [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/3 "2003-01-27T21:56:24Z")
Who said that? Link? Did it also involve licking balls?
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### Author:  [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/4 "2003-01-27T21:57:03Z")
Or as long as you aren’t French, either. Or Danish, or Norwegian, or …
d&r after Rick
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### Author:  [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/5 "2003-01-27T21:58:50Z")
Who said that? Link?
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/6 "2003-01-27T22:06:02Z")
**Churchill:** Ou est le masse de manoeuvre? (_Where are the reserves?_)
**Gamelin:** Aucune. (_There are none_).
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### Author:  [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/7 "2003-01-27T22:06:25Z")
> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by samarm \*
> \*\*Who said that? Link? Did it also involve licking balls? \*\*
lmfao
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### Author:  [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/8 "2003-01-27T22:06:35Z")
??? I didn’t mean both those posts to go through… that was weird. Sorry.
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### Author:  [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/9 "2003-01-27T22:08:49Z")
Well, **Lola** , there be a lot of ball lickin’ going on round these parts latelys, and it just ain’t right dagnabit!
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### Author:  [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/10 "2003-01-27T22:11:27Z")
The latest example was indeed provided in the [Why France and Germany can lick my balls…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=158885) thread by **RexDart** , but I’m not talking about specific examples. It’s the general casual use of phrase itself that annoys me.
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### Author:  [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/11 "2003-01-27T22:12:06Z")
Well then stop eating so much damn cheese!!!
PS. “Groovy German” just doesn’t sound right.
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### Author:  [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/12 "2003-01-27T22:12:36Z")
Yeah, gee, making fun of French people is as silly as, oh, gee, I don’t know, automatically assuming that all Southerners are ignorant bigots just because you’ve always heard it was so and the only time the South breaks the national news radar is when some assholes put sheets on their heads.
Note: I’m not pointing fingers at any one person here; I don’t specifically recall anyone here ever making fun of Southerners. But all things being relative, I think the French get off pretty easy when it comes to stereotypes.
I’ll get off my soapbox now. Fight the power.
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### Author:  [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/13 "2003-01-27T22:13:48Z")
> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by samarm \*
> **… there be a lot of ball lickin’ going on round these parts latelys …**
Send some _my_ way!
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### Author:  [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/14 "2003-01-27T22:14:56Z")
Willy hears you, Willy don’t care.
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### Author:  [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/15 "2003-01-27T22:15:00Z")
I like cheese.
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### Author:  [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/16 "2003-01-27T22:18:54Z")
Look, I’m white I want to be able to make fun of SOMEONE!
I can’t make fun of hicks, hillbillys, mountain men or trailer trash.
They all have guns! ☹
The french don’t have guns!
And I don’t like wine so they can’t threaten to cut me off from wine!
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### Author:  [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/17 "2003-01-27T22:20:23Z")
Will you people just stop it with the ball licking? I can’t take it no mores!
**Homebrew** : You can have my balls when I’m good and finished with them, and not before. Got it?
Seriously, with regard to the OP:
Yeah it may offend French people, but it depends a lot on the context it is used in. You can read into it what you will.
I personally wouldn’t use a phrase like that, becasue:
- yes it can be seen as offensive
- it’s not even very good or funny
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### Author:  [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/18 "2003-01-27T22:21:10Z")
When come back, bring quiche.
Hmm. It just doesn’t feel the same.
Forget I said anything.
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/19 "2003-01-27T22:22:58Z")
And here I was wondering why someone was calling Wisconsin residents “surrender monkeys”. :eek: 😃
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### Author:  [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2003, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys/151340/20 "2003-01-27T22:27:37Z")
> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Francesca \*
> \*\*The latest example was indeed provided in the [Why France and Germany can lick my balls…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=158885) thread by **RexDart** , but I’m not talking about specific examples. It’s the general casual use of phrase itself that annoys me. \*\*
That was **Karp2381** that gets the credit for that thread not Rex.
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