# Cheesecake Factory?  Feh.  What we need...

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [December 7, 2004, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579 "2004-12-07T18:06:08Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author: ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/21 "2004-12-08T00:40:43Z")

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Here y’ go: [Mr. Tod’s Pie Factory](http://www.whybake.com/)

> [@](#):
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> 10" Pies  
> Apple  
> Lots of apples tucked under a flaky all-butter crust. 12.00
> 
> Buttermilk Coconut  
> Flakes of coconut in a custard filling 12.00
> 
> Blueberry  
> Nice, juicy blueberries peeking through a flaky lattice top. 15.00
> 
> Cherry (seasonal)  
> We got some of the cherries that fell when George chopped down the tree.  
> 15.00
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> Chocolate Pecan  
> Our pecan pie enriched with semi-sweet chocolate and chocolate chips. 15.00
> 
> German Chocolate  
> A rich, German chocolate in a custard base topped with flakes of coconut and finely chopped pecans.  
> 15.00
> 
> Key Lime  
> A delicious graham cracker crust holds this limey treat.  
> (add $2.00 for a cream cheese base)  
> 18.00
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> Lemon Chess  
> Real lemon peels combined with cornmeal. General Chess would be proud. 12.00
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> Pecan  
> A Southern tradition perfected and brought north. 12.00
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> Pumpkin  
> The right touch of ginger, cinnamon and nutmeg make this a Fall favorite.  
> 10.00
> 
> Sweet Potato  
> Fresh yams peeled daily and sweetened like Mom taught me. 10.0

You can get buttermilk AND coconut! And this guy actually knows how to make a good pie crust. As good as I make myself, and that’s sayin’ something. Uses imported butter. Mmmmmmm…

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### Author: ![Cyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@Cyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyn)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/22 "2004-12-08T00:43:04Z")

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I want pie. I almost bought a pie this morning and I didn’t and my regret is bitter.  
Bitter.

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### Author: ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/23 "2004-12-08T01:17:21Z")

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> [@Cyn](#):
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> I want pie. I almost bought a pie this morning and I didn’t and my regret is bitter.  
> Bitter.

Butter makes it better.

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### Author: ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/24 "2004-12-08T03:27:01Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> Buttermilk pie is yummy. It is sort of a creamy custard pie.

The person who started this thread is clearly high on crack. Cheesecake is soooo superior to pie. There are really only about 2 or 3 edible pies, the rest all being scattered on the scale from “meh” to “eeeewwwww”. And that’s not just my opinion–it’s a fact and if you disagree it’s because you’re WRONG.

The above “creamy custard pie” sounds like it’s probably about the worst offender, considering that “custard” is really just secret code for “phlegm” at least by taste and texture.

🙂  
I do adore pumpkin pie though. MMmmmmmm…

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### Author: ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/25 "2004-12-08T04:14:34Z")

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I’ll bring some pie. When I come back.  
_flees for her life_

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### Author: ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/26 "2004-12-08T04:59:59Z")

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But I like the Cheesecake Factory. Especially the burgers and the fabulous chocolate cake.

_joins **Kythereia** in fleeing_

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### Author: ![Tikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@Tikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tikki)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/27 "2004-12-08T07:31:59Z")

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No one’s mentioned straight rhubarb pie. So tart and so yummy!

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### Author: ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/28 "2004-12-08T07:40:05Z")

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At the last PNW Dopefest, I brought a (farmers’ market-bought) rhubard/pineapple pie. It sounded really weird (which of course is why I had to get it in the first place), but the combination worked surprisingly well.

[Hey, cool–they have a web site now](http://www.alkipiecompany.com)

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### Author: ![quiltguy154](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ad7895/32.png) [@quiltguy154](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy154)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/29 "2004-12-08T12:15:23Z")

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One time, AND ONLY ONE TIME, I procured what was the absolutest best pie that has ever come in to my pie-lovin’ hands, and mouth. Double crust, red raspberry pie. Pastry so flaky, it must’ve been made by angels, and a filling of the most toothsome sweet/tart raspberries imaginable. If anyone is in the North Salem, NY area[?] there’s an apple orchard farmstand where this ethereal delight may be had. Wish I could remember the name. Think they ship?

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### Author: ![DrMemory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@DrMemory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrMemory)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/30 "2004-12-08T13:16:10Z")

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Does anyone remember a pie place during the 60’s- early 70’s called “4 and 20”?  
I think they’re long gone, but if ever I was gonna open a pie place, I’d snag the name.

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### Author: ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/31 "2004-12-08T13:24:49Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Ask, and [ye shall receive](http://www.bakerssquarerestaurants.com/bsq_pies/our_pies.html)

How could you post that.

You need therapy…lots and lots of therapy.

And Weight Watchers.

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### Author: ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/32 "2004-12-08T13:30:35Z")

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30+ posts and not a Weebl reference in sight. Astounding.

Homemade apple pie is the best. THE BEST. And I’ll fight the person who says otherwise.

Storebought and restaurant apple pies, OTOH, are sugar-filled rubbish.

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### Author: ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2004, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/33 "2004-12-08T13:55:05Z")

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> [@OpalCat](#):
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> The person who started this thread is clearly high on crack. Cheesecake is soooo superior to pie. There are really only about 2 or 3 edible pies, the rest all being scattered on the scale from “meh” to “eeeewwwww”. And that’s not just my opinion–it’s a fact and if you disagree it’s because you’re WRONG.

I’m sorry, you are sorely mistaken.

1. Me like pie. Mmmm Pie.
2. Cheesecake is an abomination of nature, unfit for human consumption. I don’t care what my wife, her entire family, and (it seems) the majority of the human race say.
3. Ummm… Hi.

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### Author: ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/34 "2004-12-09T03:55:36Z")

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> [@don't ask](#):
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> How could you post that.
> 
> You need therapy…lots and lots of therapy.
> 
> And Weight Watchers.

You are so right. Now. Tell me. How wrong is it that the closest one to my home is also in the same shopping center as my gym?

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### Author: ![TJdude825](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@TJdude825](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TJdude825)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2004, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/35 "2004-12-09T08:00:50Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> Pie are square?
> 
> No. Cake are square.
> 
> Pie are round.
> 
> That site is pure evil.
> 
> I love it.

In that case, cheesecake is actually pie. Personally, I rate cheesecake higher than pie on some days, but lower on others. It just depends on how I’m feeling.

Anyway, doesn’t the Cheesecake Factory actually have some pies as well?

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2004, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/36 "2004-12-09T09:49:26Z")

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Cheesecake Factory also has a rude marketing gimmick. They found out that a “line outside the door” meant "hard to get into and thus desireable’ to a good number of dudes polled. Thus they design and set up things so that their customers are kept waiting in lines outside.

Since i hate lines- and really hate nasty little tactics like this- i don’t eat there. :mad:

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### Author: ![ILovCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e99b99/32.png) [@ILovCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ILovCoffee)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2004, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/37 "2004-12-09T10:22:27Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> I’ll bring some pie. When I come back.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> 30+ posts and not a Weebl reference in sight. Astounding.

Gyrate needs glasses! 😉

I need pie. Pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, PIE!

Mom made a lovely “Chess” pie. Ambosia! Sis Julie lives for Apple Pie. Dad loves “Mincemeat” Pie. I prefer pumpkin cheesecake, French Silk Pie, and any berry pie.

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### Author: ![Greasy\_Stain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ebca7d/32.png) [@Greasy\_Stain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greasy_Stain)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2004, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/38 "2004-12-09T17:14:22Z")

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San Diego, CA, interestingly enough, has some establishments that most locals agree are the very best at what they do in the area. For example, if you want to eat Mexican food in Old Town, you go to Casa de Bandini. For a really good, commercial-quality steak, you hie yourself to Seisel’s Meats in Bay Park. For pie, there is only [The Julian Pie Company](http://www.julianpie.com). It’s not even really in San Diego, but rather 50 miles northeast or so, but the trip is worth it. A warm Dutch apple pie from that place is absurdly good. Highly recommended if you ever find yourself in these parts.

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### Author: ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2004, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheesecake-factory-feh-what-we-need/278579/39 "2004-12-09T17:19:10Z")

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> [@ILovCoffee](#):
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> Gyrate needs glasses! 😉

Curses!

\<shakes fist at **ILovCoffee** \>

> [@](#):
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> I need pie. Pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie, PIE!

Of course you do, **Coffee** :

> [@Irving Berlin](#):
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> _Just around the corner,  
> There’s a rainbow in the sky,  
> So let’s have another cup of coffee,  
> And let’s have another piece of pie._

😛

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