# Cheney, Dick **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 21, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214 "2009-05-21T18:29:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/1 "2009-05-21T18:29:36Z")
You Cheney-Cheneying Cheny Cheneyster, like a Cheny Cheney Cheneyed naked Chaney and with a Chenyish Cheney Chenyly Chaneying from your Chaneyhole. Sorry if that’s not creative enough, I tried thinking of more repugnant words, but nothing came to mind that topped the Cheney Cheneyesque reaction in my Cheney. Fogive the Cheneying repetitiveness, but it’s Cheney as I could get. You Cheney’d up the country worse than the 9/11 gang by making us _more_ of a target, making it _easier_ for Chenyheads to recruit, and Cheneying on our civil liberties. Now you’re trying to take the mantle of a [shadow government](http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/live-blogging-the-presidents-national-security-speech/index.html?ref=global-home) and still push your repudiated agenda? Go drink a tall glass of Santorum, Cheneywit. ---
**Author:** ![initech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/439d5e/32.png) [@initech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/initech)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/2 "2009-05-21T18:32:26Z")
Cheney you, right up the Cheney. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/3 "2009-05-21T18:34:43Z")
Speaking of Cheney, his [poll numbers are rising](http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/21/cheney.poll/), although he still has a long way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/4 "2009-05-21T18:39:30Z")
Giving a speech is forming a shadow government? Or is it disagreeing with The Blessed One? Or is it that no former VP should ever disagree with the President? Because that would be forming a shadow government, and we don’t want that. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/5 "2009-05-21T18:45:00Z")
Who the Cheney said anything about a “blessed one”? I think you’re a little too attached to Rush’s Cheney there. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/6 "2009-05-21T18:46:43Z")
I will say it, no former VP should come out and criticize a sitting President in regards to national security issues especially in his first year in office. I do not say this should be a law, I say this should be an act that respects the Office of President and the institution of Democracy. That is just my opinion. BTW, why does Cheney hate freedom? > [@](#): > > And when [our enemies] see the American government caught up in arguments about interrogations, or whether foreign terrorists have constitutional rights, they don’t stand back in awe of our legal system and wonder whether they had misjudged us all along. Instead the terrorists see just what they were hoping for - our unity gone, our resolve shaken, our leaders distracted. In short, they see weakness and opportunity. Sorry Mr. Cheney, those are strengths, not weaknesses. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/7 "2009-05-21T18:46:49Z")
I thought we fired his ass- why the he’ll is he still getting airtime? Oh, because we’ve still got morons on the right who will swallow anything a Republican presents to 'em, I guess. Oh, hey there, **Shodan**. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/8 "2009-05-21T18:47:06Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > Speaking of Cheney, his [poll numbers are rising](http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/21/cheney.poll/), although he still has a long way to go. What possible conclusion could or should be drawn from that factoid considering that the same article points out the following: > [@](#): > > _Former President George W. Bush’s favorable rating rose 6 points in that same time period, and Bush has not given a single public speech since he left office._ Revisionist partisan zealots are overcoming their shame and coming out of hiding? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/9 "2009-05-21T18:48:02Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Giving a speech is forming a shadow government? Or is it disagreeing with The Blessed One? Cheney has pretty much dedicated the past few months to disagreeing with everything Obama says. Cheney’s ideas and policies have made us less safe, not Obama’s. And would you kindly drop that stupid joke? Nobody thinks Obama is the second coming. ---
**Author:** ![lalenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@lalenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lalenin)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/10 "2009-05-21T18:50:54Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > I will say it, no former VP should come out and criticize a sitting President in regards to national security issues especially in his first year in office. I do not say this should be a law, I say this should be an act that respects the Office of President and the institution of Democracy. > > That is just my opinion. I could not disagree more. When a sitting politician takes actions that anyone, even a former president or vice-president disagree with they should make their case, and make it loudly and publicly. If more politicians would have done this in 2001-2002 then maybe the course of the Bush presidency would have been completely different. ---
**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/11 "2009-05-21T18:57:52Z")
I find it amusing this ghoul spent eight years in an “undisclosed location” and he’s on TV more than Regis. When he dies (_if_ he can die, that is), I’ll buy the first round. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/12 "2009-05-21T19:03:13Z")
> [@lalenin](#): > > I could not disagree more. When a sitting politician takes actions that anyone, even a former president or vice-president disagree with they should make their case, and make it loudly and publicly. If more politicians would have done this in 2001-2002 then maybe the course of the Bush presidency would have been completely different. Naw. Bush didn’t listen to anyone who wasn’t telling him what he wanted to hear. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/13 "2009-05-21T19:05:02Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > What possible conclusion could or should be drawn from that factoid In general, politicians tend to be more popular out of office than in it. But it’s something to keep an eye on. ---
**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/14 "2009-05-21T19:07:21Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > In general, politicians tend to be more popular out of office than in it. > > But it’s something to keep an eye on. They also tend to be more popular when they aren’t shooting their friends in the face. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/15 "2009-05-21T19:11:43Z")
> [@Birdmonster](#): > > They also tend to be more popular when they aren’t shooting their friends in the face. Says **Birdmonster** , who just a couple posts up offered to buy a round. ---
**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/16 "2009-05-21T19:17:43Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Says **Birdmonster** , who just a couple posts up offered to buy a round. Not sure where you’re heading with this, honestly. But I doubt I’ll be the only one celebrating Cheney’s posthumous trip to the bottom floor of hell. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/17 "2009-05-21T19:27:52Z")
Heh… probably heading to a bar 🙂 [QUOTE=Gangster Ocotpus] I will say it, no former VP should come out and criticize a sitting President in regards to national security issues especially in his first year in office. I do not say this should be a law, I say this should be an act that respects the Office of President and the institution of Democracy. [/QUOTE] I don’t believe it should be as extreme as _no_ criticism, but this concerted media effort is disgusting. I said it before: I think Cheney hopes American will die. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/18 "2009-05-21T19:35:51Z")
> [@Birdmonster](#): > > Not sure where you’re heading with this, honestly. But I doubt I’ll be the only one celebrating Cheney’s posthumous trip to the bottom floor of hell. Cheney’s **shooting** & you offering to buy a **round**. Get it? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Birdmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71e660/32.png) [@Birdmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Birdmonster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/19 "2009-05-21T19:47:34Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Cheney’s **shooting** & you offering to buy a **round**. > > Get it? 😉 I am ashamed to have missed a pun. Thoroughly, thoroughly ashamed. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214/20 "2009-05-21T19:57:41Z")
> [@Dick Cheney](#): > > And when [our enemies] see the American government caught up in arguments about interrogations, or whether foreign terrorists have constitutional rights, they don’t stand back in awe of our legal system and wonder whether they had misjudged us all along. Instead the terrorists see just what they were hoping for - our unity gone, our resolve shaken, our leaders distracted. In short, they see weakness and opportunity. Well, if you feel that strongly about it Mr. Cheney, why don’t you just shut the fuck up? And then the terrorists won’t see any arguments or division, they’ll see unity and strength. So if you really thought this, you’d shut the fuck up and start supporting the fucking President. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-dick/497214.md?page=2)