# Cheney has no pulse

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 19, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267 "2010-07-19T20:14:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/41 "2010-07-20T04:05:54Z")

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Wow, last I heard of this technology, it was an up-and-coming experimental thing which they said might someday be of medical use. I’m surprised they got it deployed so quickly.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/42 "2010-07-20T04:06:24Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> On the other hand, I can’t help but be reminded of all the Darth Cheney jokes. “He’s more machine now than man.”

That was my response when I heard about it this afternoon. (From there we moved on to “Doctors discovered his heart was two sized too small” and “In addition to having no pulse, if you put him in front of a mirror he doesn’t have a reflection.”)

I don’t feel particularly sorry for him because he’s lived a fairly long life and, unfortunately for the rest of us, I think he’s accomplished most of the things he wanted to do. This also isn’t very surprising since he’s been having heart problems for 30 or 40 years. If he’s near the end I’m sure he’ll be well taken care of. I’m sure it’s difficult for his family and I’m sorry for them.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/43 "2010-07-20T04:20:53Z")

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A heart attack at 37?!?! How the hell did he manage THAT?

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/44 "2010-07-20T04:31:35Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I can’t. Dick may be pure, unblinking evil, but he has a wife and daughter who love him and will grieve for them. In a perfect world he’d be in prison, but I refuse to wish evil upon him.

I don’t. An eye for an eye. Life’s not fair, tough shit for the kid but fuck him. He’s Evil and hope the rest of his life is lived in terror and pain.

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/45 "2010-07-20T04:55:49Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> A heart attack at 37?!?! How the hell did he manage THAT?

Heavy smoking.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/46 "2010-07-20T05:41:03Z")

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When did he ever have one?

(OK, maybe that’s in poor taste. Oh well)

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/47 "2010-07-20T05:45:54Z")

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> [@lavenderviolet](#):
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> Another way to look at it is that perhaps it’s thanks to his party promoting healthcare or business policies that encourage innovation and entrepreneurship that such miraculous technology was even created in the first place. Not that other countries never have technological advances or clinical trials, but American healthcare is a powerhouse of research and innovation. A lot of medical breakthroughs have their origins in the American healthcare system.  
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But not Stem Cell Research.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/48 "2010-07-20T05:52:12Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> A heart attack at 37?!?! How the hell did he manage THAT?

His mind and his heart had an irreconcilable disagreement over how to treat his fellow human beings (we assume he was still human back then), and his heart lost.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/49 "2010-07-20T06:02:32Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> he has a wife and daughter who love him and will grieve for them.

And a secondary, apparently inferior daughter, against whose equality before the law his administration constantly militated.

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**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/50 "2010-07-20T12:34:46Z")

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He’s the devil.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/51 "2010-07-20T13:00:33Z")

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Cheney has one heck of a good medical malpractice claim – it never should have taken 69 years for his doctors to finally conclude that he did not have a heart.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/52 "2010-07-20T13:08:28Z")

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Add another whose main desire would be that he die quicker, than to continue to receive health care paid for by us.  
He is an evil man.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/53 "2010-07-20T13:14:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Cheney has no pulse

Does this surprise you in some way?

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/54 "2010-07-20T13:36:51Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Add another whose main desire would be that he die quicker, than to continue to receive health care paid for by us.

Not me. I’d prefer that he linger for years upon years in unspeakable agony.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/55 "2010-07-20T13:44:20Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> I’m sure as a former VP he has life long health insurance and everything is covered. No need to get pre-approval.

So, wait a minute, are you saying he has GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE???!!!1!!

Fucking socialist.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/56 "2010-07-20T13:50:08Z")

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Personally I think we need to change our whole attitude about death in this country. As someone else pointed out, he has time to say goodbye. Now is the time for him to put his affairs in order and face death gracefully, after saying goodbye to everyone he loves. What grief is there over that? Sure, you miss the person that is gone, but you had time to say goodbye, and everyone dies.

I don’t respect Cheney an iota, but he lived a good, full, long life. He saw things that he never expected to see and saw the world change around him. I do not agree it is a bad death at all.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/57 "2010-07-20T14:41:29Z")

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His entire career has been dedicated to the notion that people who are not him but have similar medical conditions should be one serious illness away from losing everything they own and denied access to medical care for treatment of their condition.

Under those circumstances it is impossible to feel sorry for him.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/58 "2010-07-20T15:11:35Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> A heart attack at 37?!?! How the hell did he manage THAT?

My late husband had a heart attack at age 33. He lived for 15 years after that.

I assure you, he didn’t do it on purpose just to baffle you.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/59 "2010-07-20T15:59:53Z")

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Is he on a list for a transplant? While I intend to DVR his funeral and cheerfully munch popcorn throughout, it seems that if a heart comes available and he happens to be the best match for it, then he should get it. Or is there an upper limit on age for recipients?

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/60 "2010-07-20T16:35:46Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> After all the evil he’s done I can’t feel sorry for him. I can’t imagine anything happening to him that would be awful enough that I would feel sorry for him.

Same here.

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