# Cheney has no pulse

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 19, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267 "2010-07-19T20:14:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/61 "2010-07-20T16:40:36Z")

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By the way, I was very disappointed by the misleading thread title.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/62 "2010-07-20T17:01:45Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Or is there an upper limit on age for recipients?

I suspect Haliburton owns some hospitals and probably some donors as well. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/63 "2010-07-20T17:09:51Z")

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I’m trying to come up with an [“I had other priorities”](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/01/politics/campaign/01CHEN.html) joke. I’ll be back when one comes to me.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/64 "2010-07-20T17:13:05Z")

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In all seriousness, is he still getting government sponsored healthcare - or given his advanced age, Medicare? What are the standard healthcare perks that ex-VPs receive?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/65 "2010-07-20T17:20:20Z")

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E-Presidents and ex-VP’s get free health care for life. I believe their families do too. I doubt there’s any expense that he would be spared. If he needs a heart, they’ll find him a heart, though I suspect he might have his own…procurers…for something like that.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/66 "2010-07-20T18:51:28Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> E-Presidents and ex-VP’s get free health care for life. I believe their families do too. I doubt there’s any expense that he would be spared. If he needs a heart, they’ll find him a heart, though I suspect he might have his own…procurers…for something like that.

That was my husband’s reaction to hearing this story. “Man, you’d think if anyone could buy himself a heart, it’d be Dick Cheney.”

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/67 "2010-07-20T19:23:13Z")

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sergei grinkov had a fatal heart attack at 28. sometimes genetics roll snake eyes. grinkov was a fairly fit man who had incredibly clogged arteries.

cheney is rather lucky in that he has survived this long with a bum ticker.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/68 "2010-07-20T23:19:35Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> cheney is rather lucky in that he has survived this long with a bum ticker.

More our bad luck than his good, IMHO.

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**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/69 "2010-07-21T00:11:35Z")

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> [@fuzzypickles](#):
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> Not me. I’d prefer that he linger for years upon years in unspeakable agony.

I believe that when Cheney made people suffer, he sincerely believed that it was in the service of some greater good, though I think he was mistaken in that. You, on the other hand, want him to suffer just for the sake of suffering, which to me is worse than what he did. Or do you suppose his suffering will cancel out the suffering he caused? Is there a dead kid in Iraq coming to life as we speak? Perhaps you will take Cheney’s suffering as proof that God is on your side, and thus rest easier at night.

I was going to ask how you would view your own future suffering in view of your revenge-based moral reasoning, but I can see you are suffering right now or else you would not have said what you did.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/70 "2010-07-21T00:27:52Z")

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> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> I believe that when Cheney made people suffer, he sincerely believed that it was in the service of some greater good,

No way. He wanted to make money for Halliburton and the wealthiest Americans at the expense of everyone else.  
Remember how after a VP debate Gore thanked him and Cheney ignored him? He is an unmitigated bastard.  
I don’t enjoy any suffering, I just wish he would die.

Actually, I hope he holds out to January 1 so I can put him back on my [Celebrity Death Pool](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=542082).

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/71 "2010-07-21T00:40:15Z")

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I would certainly wish his predicament on several people, starting with the last president of this country.

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**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/72 "2010-07-21T00:50:21Z")

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> [@Encinitas](#):
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> OK, am I the only one who misread the title of the OP as “Cheney has no pubes?”

No

> [@pravnik](#):
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> Wow. Yeah, I wouldn’t wish that on anybody.

Mjeh…

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> After all the evil he’s done I can’t feel sorry for him. I can’t imagine anything happening to him that would be awful enough that I would feel sorry for him.

This.

> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> I believe that when Cheney made people suffer, he sincerely believed that it was in the service of some greater good, though.

I disagree. And I think you’re very naive at best, delusional at worst.

> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> Or do you suppose his suffering will cancel out the suffering he caused?

In a way I guess, since many of his victims or his victims families will be a bit happier.

> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> Is there a dead kid in Iraq coming to life as we speak? Perhaps you will take Cheney’s suffering as proof that God is on your side, and thus rest easier at night.

I don’t believe in magic.

> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> You, on the other hand, want him to suffer just for the sake of suffering, which to me is worse than what he did

Really…? _Wanting_ one evil person to suffer is actually worse to you than _making_ millions suffer? That sounds like a very weird belief system.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/73 "2010-07-21T01:03:46Z")

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> [@Stoneburg](#):
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> Really…? _Wanting_ one evil person to suffer is actually worse to you than _making_ millions suffer? That sounds like a very weird belief system.

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/74 "2010-07-21T02:55:56Z")

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As soon as I saw the article in the Science Times, I said, “I can just hear the ‘Cheney has a heart?’ right now.”

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**Author:** ![Cinebar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Cinebar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinebar)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/75 "2010-07-21T03:22:52Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> His wife is as big an asshole as he is; she just never was in a position to foist her brand of rape on an entire nation. Fuck both of them, twice. When he goes, I hope it’s painful.

His daughter Lynn is also a major bitch. Nasal-voiced, snotty daddy’s girl who simply parrots what she thinks daddy would want her to say. A case of the apple not falling far from the tree.

I don’t know much about his other daughter other than she’s gay. She’s probably the only sane one.

No, I don’t have much sympathy or compassion for such an evil piece of crap that Cheney is.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/76 "2010-07-21T03:56:44Z")

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> [@Hyperelastic](#):
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> I believe that when Cheney made people suffer, he sincerely believed that it was in the service of some greater good

So did Hitler.

I actually don’t even believe it’s true for Cheney. I have come to believe that was true for W, but I honestly believe Cheney was acting from pure, cynical self-interest. He always kn he was lying. He kept trying to lie about about an Iraq/al Qaeda connection long after it was proven to be bullshit, and he tried to literally torture Gitmo prisoners into saying Saddam had something to do with 9/11 so he could use it as a pretense to invade Iraq. Eventually he had to resort to “WMD’s” because he couldn’t get them to say what he wanted them to say.

At no point did he ever believe he was doing the right thing or protecting America. He snowed Bush into believing that, but it was a manipulative game to him. He was basically Charles Manson with real political power.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/77 "2010-07-21T15:13:30Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Remember how after a VP debate Gore thanked him and Cheney ignored him?

John Edwards, maybe?

Either way, no.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/78 "2010-07-21T15:42:14Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> John Edwards, maybe?
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> Either way, no.

:smack:  
Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/79 "2010-07-21T15:57:38Z")

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Never Mind.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/80 "2010-07-21T23:39:06Z")

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Disregarding the cruel and snarky posts, s there any better proof of the patriotism of this man? He could have retired to alife of luxury-instead he stayed in the DC snakepit, fighting for what he saw as right.  
A hypocrite he was not.

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