# Cheney has no pulse **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 19, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267 "2010-07-19T20:14:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/101 "2010-07-22T07:07:07Z")
I think it would be nice if they put him out in the sun for a few hours. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/102 "2010-07-22T17:41:44Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I think it would be nice if they put him out in the sun for a few hours. I thought that he could only go out at night? Otherwise, he’ll instantly turn to dust. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/103 "2010-07-22T17:50:32Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I thought that he could only go out at night? Otherwise, he’ll instantly turn to dust. Yes, it would be nice. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/104 "2010-07-23T00:30:36Z")
I hope some yahoo shows up at his funeral dressed like [this](http://billandkent.com/blog/blogimages/cheney-01282005.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/105 "2010-07-23T01:46:12Z")
> [@Absolute](#): > > [http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/health/20docs.html?\_r=1&hp](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/health/20docs.html?_r=1&hp) > > Apparently Dick Cheney’s heart problems are rapidly worsening - he has been implanted with a ventricular assist device, and as a result, now has no pulse or heartbeat, just a constant 10,000 RPM whirring… > > Without this device, he would only have a few more months to live - and it seems that the expected survival rate is still only about 50% over the next two years, without a transplant. > > I feel sorry for the guy. Regardless of what you think of his policies, it sounds like a pretty shitty way to go. I guess I’m an ass, because I don’t feel sorry for him at all. I feel worse for the injured people on both sides of the fiasco he helped start that don’t have adequate medical care. So, in other words, fuck Cheney. If that makes me a dick, so be it. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/106 "2010-07-23T02:24:50Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > I guess I’m an ass, because I don’t feel sorry for him at all. I feel worse for the injured people on both sides of the fiasco he helped start that don’t have adequate medical care. So, in other words, fuck Cheney. If that makes me a dick, so be it. # Same here. He’s on a very short list with people like Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden whose ill fortune I just can’t feel sympathy for because he deserves every bit and many times more for the lives his actions directly ended or otherwise ruined. On a completely different note, if Cheney or anybody else with that device were to die, I wonder what differences there would be in the corpse. They’re not breathing but the blood is continuing to circulate, so I imagine they’ll stay warmer and have less lividity for at least a while. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/107 "2010-07-23T23:41:10Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > No way. He wanted to make money for Halliburton and the wealthiest Americans at the expense of everyone else. As low as that is (if you believe it), it’s still not as bad as wanting someone to suffer just for the hell of it. Who’s worse, a guy who shoots you for your wallet, or a guy who shoots you just to watch you die? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/108 "2010-07-23T23:44:25Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > As low as that is (if you believe it), it’s still not as bad as wanting someone to suffer just for the hell of it. Who’s worse, a guy who shoots you for your wallet, or a guy who shoots you just to watch you die? To the person who got shot it’s about the same. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/109 "2010-07-23T23:49:13Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Wow. Yeah, I wouldn’t wish that on anybody. I would–on Cheney. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/110 "2010-07-23T23:51:37Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > As low as that is (if you believe it), it’s still not as bad as wanting someone to suffer just for the hell of it. Who’s worse, a guy who shoots you for your wallet, or a guy who shoots you just to watch you die? Only its not just for the hell of it. Its not like Cheney is some schmoe that hasn’t hurt anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/111 "2010-07-24T00:09:32Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > As low as that is (if you believe it), it’s still not as bad as wanting someone to suffer just for the hell of it. Who’s worse, a guy who shoots you for your wallet, or a guy who shoots you just to watch you die? I agree with Sampiro, but I don’t get your drift. ---
**Author:** ![Cinebar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Cinebar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinebar)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/112 "2010-07-24T00:13:59Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > Who’s worse, a guy who shoots you for your wallet, or a guy who shoots you just to watch you die? Or a guy who shoots you because you got between him and the quail? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/113 "2010-07-24T00:24:20Z")
> [@Cinebar](#): > > Or a guy who shoots you because you got between him and the quail? 😃 Were it my decision, you just won the thread. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/114 "2010-07-24T17:29:59Z")
I just find actually hating people until you actually want them to die to be barbaric. But, admittedly, in this case, it’s a harmless barbarism. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/115 "2010-07-24T20:54:58Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I just find actually hating people until you actually want them to die to be barbaric. But, admittedly, in this case, it’s a harmless barbarism. I don’t want him to die. I don’t particularly not want him to die. I rarely think about the issue. Neither can I say I hate him- I don’t know him, though I do believe he’s a criminal with a bloodstained soul if souls exist, and I don’t feel sorry for him that he’s dying because he does not, imo, deserve the same compassion I would give even to a stranger; that’s different from hating him to the point of wanting him to die. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/116 "2010-07-25T02:25:00Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I agree with Sampiro, but I don’t get your drift. Let me put it this way: wishing that Cheney had died _before he took office_ is defensible, in the sense that he wouldn’t have been able to do his evil deeds. Wanting him to suffer and die now, when he no longer has any influence, is nothing but coldblooded revenge. Don’t you think that very same kind of thinking was at least partly responsible for the Iraq invasion and some of the other excesses of Bush-Cheney? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/117 "2010-07-25T03:22:43Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > Let me put it this way: wishing that Cheney had died _before he took office_ is defensible, in the sense that he wouldn’t have been able to do his evil deeds. I’ll buy that. > [@Hyperelastic](#): > > Wanting him to suffer and die now, when he no longer has any influence, is nothing but coldblooded revenge. Yeah, but it feels good. Edit: But he still has a great deal of influence in the Republican party. > [@Hyperelastic](#): > > Don’t you think that very same kind of thinking was at least partly responsible for the Iraq invasion and some of the other excesses of Bush-Cheney? No, they were Capitalist Republican Assholes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/118 "2010-07-25T03:35:07Z")
In any case, what’s to feel sorry about the man any way? He should be dead, he’s lucky that just now new technology is available to keep him alive. Most people in his same situation would be buried by now. Once again he got away with it, he dodged Vietnam, avoided facing responsibility for being instrumental in waging a war of aggression, and now he cheated death. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/119 "2010-07-25T03:44:17Z")
Good thing Grand Moff Tarkin is holding his leash. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267/120 "2010-07-25T04:07:18Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > Wanting him to suffer and die now, when he no longer has any influence, is nothing but coldblooded revenge. Don’t you think that very same kind of thinking was at least partly responsible for the Iraq invasion and some of the other excesses of Bush-Cheney? No; the equivalent of that would be if my response to Bush/Cheney was to set off car bombs in Mexico. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-has-no-pulse/547267.md?page=7)