# Cheney Manufactures Excuse to Not Stand for President **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254 "2009-01-21T02:53:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ocean\_Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8797f3/32.png) [@Ocean\_Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ocean_Annie)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/21 "2009-01-21T10:58:14Z")
Cheney probably stole the wheelchair from some poor disabled kid without insurance. I suppose the kid needs to learn that in Dick Cheney’s America there is no room for people who burden the state. Any state spending on the unwashed masses threatens a zero tax rate for the bandits controlling American commerce or more precisely the people who sell bonds. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/22 "2009-01-21T11:10:19Z")
I want to know what was in the box that Cheney wouldn’t allow anyone else to move. Toenails pulled from Gitmo? Naked pictures of Bush and Condi? ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/23 "2009-01-21T12:22:12Z")
> [@KSO](#): > > My thoughts? You’re an idiot. I agree. > [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](#): > > Doesn’t qualify as a thought, but thanks for keeping the thread up top. To answer your question, we’ll find out soon (not three minutes soon, but soon enough). > > For example, there’s **KSO** to offer abuse without reason nor rhyme nor any actual or almost-thought, which merely serves to establish character without advancing the plot, but keeps things going all the same. > > And **Lynn Bodoni** and **Diogenes** , for recognizing that Cheney’s efforts are far more likely to be employed destroying documents than moving/hiding them. What? > [@Czarcasm](#): > > My personal opinion is that, once he found out that he wasn’t going to get that blanket pardon he thought he was entitled to, looking like a crippled weakling might stave off calls for further investigations into his misdeeds. oooo I like this one! > [@BobLibDem](#): > > I want to know what was in the box that Cheney wouldn’t allow anyone else to move. Toenails pulled from Gitmo? Naked pictures of Bush and Condi? I bet Condi was on top. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/24 "2009-01-21T12:26:18Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > I think an old man in somewhat bad health injured his back. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/25 "2009-01-21T13:40:53Z")
Best line was Kimmel’s, who said the real reason is that Cheney’s legs have turned back into hooves. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/26 "2009-01-21T13:44:10Z")
oh puh-leeze > [@Telemark](#): > > I think an old man in somewhat bad health injured his back. Exactly. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/27 "2009-01-21T13:55:52Z")
I think someone should’ve called him on it and thrown him out of the chair (like at the end of _The Big Lebowski),_ and if it turned out he **wasn’t** faking, so much the better (like at the end of _The Big Lebowski)._😃 ---
**Author:** ![spike404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@spike404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spike404)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/28 "2009-01-21T15:20:37Z")
I am continually amazed at the hatred coming from those who support hope, change, diversity, inclusion, togetherness, … ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/29 "2009-01-21T15:32:22Z")
> [@spike404](#): > > I am continually amazed at the hatred coming from those who support hope, change, diversity, inclusion, togetherness, … You can support all those things and still feel resentment that these worse-than-Nixon **criminals** are getting off with freedom and pensions and a lecture-tour future. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/30 "2009-01-21T15:35:49Z")
> [@spike404](#): > > I am continually amazed at the hatred coming from those who support hope, change, diversity, inclusion, togetherness, … Why are you amazed? Do you think liberals have to support and include EVERYTHING? Do they have to cheer on those who have had an enormous negative impact on the country? Should they include those who, through their own ignorance, hubris, and stubbornness, has led us into an unnecessary and costly war, contributed to an economic downturn which we still haven’t hit bottom of, broke the law, and lied to the American people? Why anyone would want to include the likes of Dick Cheney is beyond me. He is the very thing we want to change. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/31 "2009-01-21T16:03:17Z")
> [@spike404](#): > > I am continually amazed at the hatred coming from those who support hope, change, diversity, inclusion, togetherness, … You ever hear that saying, “Don’t open your mind so much your brain falls out?” Translation: Just because you can be tolerant doesn’t mean you have to be _stupid_. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/32 "2009-01-21T16:06:44Z")
That is something I don’t think Dick Cheney would stoop to. That’s saying a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/33 "2009-01-21T16:08:20Z")
Myself, I was somewhat surprised to see him there at all. I expected him to be dead by 2004. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/34 "2009-01-21T16:17:08Z")
The guy’s had numerous heart attacks while in office and was criticized for being too old when he was first elected. And now he’s faking ill health? There are so many wonderful examples about how big of an asshole is this Mr. Cheney. Why would anyone grab at speculation to prove it? I agree, if **KOS** isn’t an idiot he’s at least impersonating one in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/35 "2009-01-21T16:17:19Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Know what’s even more revolting than that piece of shit Cheney? The OP. The OP wasn’t a scheming Manichean puppetmaster at the side of the leader of the free world for 8 years. So I sense faulty logic in there someplace. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/36 "2009-01-21T16:18:30Z")
Personally, I don’t doubt Cheney had an injury (or possibly a condition - bad ticker and all) which necessitated a wheelchair, I just doubt he hurt himself moving boxes around. I wouldn’t doubt if the man hasn’t lifted anything heaver than high-ball glass in the last 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/37 "2009-01-21T16:21:49Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I figure Cheney’s just in a more weakened condition since he had to switch to the TruBlood. My friends in the vampre community assure me that the former VP is not one of their number. They have standards, and no one is willing to turn him. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/38 "2009-01-21T16:26:11Z")
As far as funny goes, a blogger, quoted in the Washington Post Express this morning, said something like “His deal with the Devil has come due, and he’s reverting to the form he will inhabit for the next thousand years.” To the complainers – the reason people hate on him is that they’ve been paying attention. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/39 "2009-01-21T16:37:48Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I want to know what was in the box that Cheney wouldn’t allow anyone else to move. Toenails pulled from Gitmo? Naked pictures of Bush and Condi? His heart. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254/40 "2009-01-21T16:43:13Z")
> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#): > > The OP wasn’t a scheming \*\*Manichean \*\*puppetmaster at the side of the leader of the free world for 8 years. So I sense faulty logic in there someplace. Just out of curiosity, do you mean “Manchiavellian” here? If not, what makes you call the ex-VP “[Manichean](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manicheanism)”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-manufactures-excuse-to-not-stand-for-president/482254.md?page=3)