# Cheney still has money ties to Halliburton **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-still-has-money-ties-to-halliburton/204021 "2003-09-26T18:15:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zenster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/cdc98d/32.png) [@Zenster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zenster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-still-has-money-ties-to-halliburton/204021/61 "2003-09-29T06:21:44Z")
**Scylla** , I do this because Cheny holds _the second highest office in our nation_. His sensibilities (or lack thereof) set a significant example for many others in both our nation’s corporate economy and populus alike. An inability on his part to adequately divorce himself from highly suspicious associations or actions inappropriately serves to assuage many potential pangs of conscience that other senior executives (be they governmental _or_ corporate) might have. That a senior administration official could care so little for the legacy of his actions or the readily justifiable perceptions (and suspicions) of others speaks volumes about the true aims and concerns of such an individual. Permit me to ask how you would feel should Cheny suddenly be awarded a multi-million dollar position as CEO or seat on the board of Halliburton’s directors after departing office. Would you blush at your defense of him then? I hope like mad that you shall not have to face such an embarrasment. I dread that you shall. Cheny’s position is shameless and in the very worst way. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-still-has-money-ties-to-halliburton/204021/62 "2003-09-29T07:49:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scylla \* > \*\*The operative phrase here is “may.” > > Apparently Lautenburg thinks “may” means “it is certain that.”\*\* > [@](#): > > Cheney has **almost certainly** taken advantage of a very nice little Financial planning tool known as a Charitable Remainder Trust. I’m not sure if I see a large difference in the weight that Lautenburg’s supposition carries versus your’s. Unless you have a cite that shows exactly how Cheney is hedging, or even hard evidence that he’s doing so at all. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-still-has-money-ties-to-halliburton/204021/63 "2003-09-29T12:34:40Z")
More fun with Cheney: > [@](#): > > In making the case for war against Iraq, Vice President Cheney has continued to suggest that an Iraqi intelligence agent met with a Sept. 11, 2001, hijacker five months before the attacks, even as the story was falling apart under scrutiny by the FBI, CIA and the foreign government that first made the allegation. Gee that’s what you get when you hire your dad’s retreads- their old obsessions too. It gets better: > [@](#): > > Not Cheney, who was the administration’s most vociferous advocate for going to war with Iraq. He brought up the connection between Atta and al-Ani again two weeks ago in an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in which he also suggested links between Iraq and the Sept. 11 attacks. > > Cheney described Iraq as “the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault for many years, but most especially on 9/11.” Neither the CIA nor the congressional joint inquiry that investigated the assault on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon found any evidence linking Iraq to the hijackers or the attacks. President Bush corrected Cheney’s statement several days later. > > Cheney’s staff also waged a campaign to include the allegation in Secretary of State Colin L. Powell’s speech to the United Nations in February in which he made the administration’s case for war against Iraq. Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, pressed Powell’s speechwriters to include the Atta claim and other suspected links between Iraq and terrorism, according to senior and mid-level administration officials involved in crafting the speech. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14901-2003Sep28.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14901-2003Sep28.html) Hmm I wonder where the rest of the bogus WMD claims came from? * * * **Scylla** , you weak attempts at an insult aside (you’re no Val Kilmer, lets leave it at that :rolleyes: ). You seem to stretch every possible inference to the breaking point, while turning a blind eye to any findings or evidence which ruin your agrument. While watching your semantic exercise has been amusing- sadly I realize that no evidence will sway your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2003, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-still-has-money-ties-to-halliburton/204021/64 "2003-09-29T12:45:16Z")
And sematic this: > [@](#): > > A Congressional Research Service report released yesterday concluded that federal ethics laws treat Vice President Cheney’s annual deferred compensation checks and unexercised stock options as continuing financial interests in the Halliburton Co. “continuing financial interests” that “conclusion” was found by the Congressional Research Service- not whatever Democratic Congressman you have deceide to blame today. So you’re still wrong. Oh what the section of the story that you keep omitting to include with your opinions couched as facts-- oh yeah, this one: > [@](#): > > However, the congressional report said that neither the insurance policy nor the charity designation would change the public official’s disclosure obligation. > [@](#): > > Johnny Ringo: Isn’t anyone here man enough to play for blood? > Doc Holliday: I’m your huckleberry. [http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0108358/](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0108358/) Although this one may have been more on point for the typical political pit thread: > [@](#): > > Johnny Ringo: My fight’s not with you, Holliday. > Doc Holliday: I beg to differ, sir. We started a game we never got to finish. “Play For Blood” – remember? > Johnny Ringo: Oh that. That was just foolin’ about. > Doc Holliday: I wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-still-has-money-ties-to-halliburton/204021/65 "2003-09-30T00:31:21Z")
Huckleberry: You do realize this report does not name either Cheney or Halliburton, don’t you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-still-has-money-ties-to-halliburton/204021.md?page=3)