# Cheney: Terror Attack if Kerry Elected **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 7, 2004, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556 "2004-09-07T22:39:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/21 "2004-09-08T00:45:13Z")
Nice little country you got here. Be a shame if anything happened to it. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/22 "2004-09-08T00:45:35Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > You live in Seattle, and **The Gaspode** lives in Sweden, so…ah, forget it. Thanks! I feel much better educated now, Professor Whooshy McWhoosmeister. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/23 "2004-09-08T00:46:51Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > That could explain why they’ve let bin Laden wander free for so long. Absolutely. Nothing works to distract people from the failures of the status quo like fear. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/24 "2004-09-08T00:47:10Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > Do you mean Quasimodo? Or am I being wooshed? You’e sort of being whooshed. sorry to ruin the joke by explaining it, but it’s a play on the similar sounds in “Nostradamus” “Notre Dame.” Well, at least you don’t have to worry about bursting into laughter in the middle of an important meeting tomorrow, and then having to explain it. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/25 "2004-09-08T00:49:52Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > When I saw this at the gym a half-hour ago, I just knew that there would be a pit thread about it when I got home. > > Big. Fucking. Deal. > > All Cheney did was bluntly say why his side had been implying the whole time. And guess what > > ```auto > > THE LEFT DOES IT TOO! > > ``` > > How many times have you heard someone say that Bush’s policies will only foster more terrorism? Or that the ‘Evil Republicans’[sup]®[/sup] economic policies will cause you to loose your job? Did you call those people asswipes? I think the difference here is that Cheney is strongly implying that electing Kerry president will directly result in a specific terrorist attack, not just more terrorism. That’s a little beyond the pale. And **Maud’Dib**. How ya doin’? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/26 "2004-09-08T00:51:15Z")
Speaking of Quasimodo… There’s a statuary place that I drive by occasionally. Every time, I have to shout out “Statuary! Statuary!” ---
**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/27 "2004-09-08T01:01:40Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > Speaking of Quasimodo… > > There’s a statuary place that I drive by occasionally. Every time, I have to shout out “Statuary! Statuary!” Hee-hee! 😃 ::fade out:: Quasimodo gazes ruefully at the gargoyles, mumbling, “why could I not have been a Stoner like these?” ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/28 "2004-09-08T01:01:45Z")
Quasimodo…I don’t quite recall the name, but his face sure rings a bell. sorry ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/29 "2004-09-08T03:13:17Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > Quasimodo…I don’t quite recall the name, but his face sure rings a bell. Are you mistaking him for his brother? He was a dead ringer for him. ---
**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/30 "2004-09-08T03:15:06Z")
> [@trandallt](#): > > And **Maud’Dib**. How ya doin’? A little tired, been chasing my four year-old nephew and his dog all day. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/31 "2004-09-08T04:23:34Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Here’s a little lesson for ya; time for you to learn something new: Denial has no effect on the actual world around you; it only effects your own little private universe. It is an established FACT that Bush’s policies HAVE fostered more terrorism. Before you accuse others of subjectivism, you might want to find a more objective position from which to accuse. **lissener** posted something I agree with. Better watch out for flying pigs. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/32 "2004-09-08T04:25:33Z")
> [@Jeff Olsen](#): > > **lissener** posted something I agree with. Better watch out for flying pigs. 🙂 :eek: Great Og! You mean **nonpolar** is now a mod? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/33 "2004-09-08T04:28:01Z")
Hey, I said _flying_, not _talking_! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/34 "2004-09-08T04:29:03Z")
And phooey on anyone planning to link to Liberty Meadows. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/35 "2004-09-08T06:12:49Z")
> [@Johnny L.A.](#): > > Speaking of Quasimodo… > > There’s a statuary place that I drive by occasionally. Every time, I have to shout out “Statuary! Statuary!” Could you explain that joke, please? I feel so left out. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/36 "2004-09-08T06:31:09Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > Big. Fucking. Deal. Well bless your little heart. Everyone has their own little opinion these days, don’t we? Some are correct like mine, and other come from somewhere… somewhere like- I don’t know… SATAN. I just think it’s a degrading thing for a Veep to do. I think it is beneath the dignity of the office. I’m a Republican who dares to expect more. So sue me. > [@Muad'Dib](#): > > All **Cheney** did was bluntly say why his side had been implying the whole time. How many times have you heard **someone** say that Bush’s policies will only foster more terrorism? Note the different parties involved. Note also that Cheney, by virtue of his office and obligations to lead and represent the republic is qualitatively different than “someone” in ways that make the comparisons of their behaviors not the most relevant thing in this instance. I’ve heard ‘someone’ go on about lizard-people before and I didn’t raise more than an eyebrow. But if Mr. Cheney were to do so, I’d raise a stink as well as an eyebrow. Plus see comments above re ‘the dignity of the office.’ Also see comments about ‘daring to expect more.’ > [@Muad'Dib](#): > > Or that the ‘Evil Republicans’[sup]®[/sup] economic policies will cause you to loose your job? Did you call those people asswipes? Not that it matters even one whit, but, no, I did not call them asswipes. Mostly, I don’t give green-polka-dotted Ogdamn when just any old “someone” says some self-demeaningly moronic shit. When I’ve happened to give enough of a fuck to comment I used a phrases more like ‘punked-out bitch.’ > [@Muad'Dib](#): > > And guess what > > ```auto > > THE LEFT DOES IT TOO! > > ``` Consider, that your statement contains even less content than, "And guess what, ```auto SOME OTHER PEOPLE DO IT TOO! ``` " I love your choice rhetorical device, though. The one where you lump together a large disparate group of people to use as a model for a straw effigy. Mr. Limbaugh is a master of the practice. ( You, sir, are a rank amateur.) In this instance it matters not one whit that “The Left” (ubiquitous, amorphous and anonymous as they may be) has said or done any number of jackassed things. The “Left” does it too. That really the best you’ve got, punk? ---
**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/37 "2004-09-08T06:47:30Z")
**Muad’Dib** : The Left does it too! **Mommy** : So, if the Left jumped off a cliff would you do it too? A six-year-old’s excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/38 "2004-09-08T10:15:52Z")
> [@](#): > > “It’s absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we’ll get hit again and we’ll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States,” Cheney… Oh, dear lord. What a bozo thing to say. If that’s the road Republicans are going to start heading down, then the Democrats have hope after all. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/39 "2004-09-08T12:00:19Z")
> [@aegypt](#): > > Could you explain that joke, please? I feel so left out. If I remember my Disney correctly, Quasimodo was adopted by a French cleric when his mother sought sanctuary at the Cathedral of Notre Dame. Statuary is a play on words from someone shouting for sanctuary. Note: for simplicity I’ve left out the facts that a) Disney didn’t originally write the story b) the French cleric was 16th level and rolled a plus 5 to stun and c) any bad jokes tying this all back to The Cult. ---
**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2004, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556/40 "2004-09-08T12:33:57Z")
> **[Cheney Warns of Terror Risk if Kerry Wins (Published 2004)](https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/08/politics/campaign/cheney-warns-of-terror-risk-if-kerry-wins.html)** > > Vice Pres Cheney warns campaign audience nation would be at risk of terror attack if 'wrong choice' is made in November, while Pres Bush accuses Sen John Kerry of adopting primary rival Howard Dean's antiwar language; Kerry attacks Bush's 'wrong... \*[Cheney] also said if Mr. Kerry was elected the nation risked lapsing to a "pre-9/11 mind-set’’ where attacks are viewed as criminal acts, not part of a war against terrorism. \*(Read: a time when the government actually protected rather than superseded individual rights -MB) \*Anne Womack, a spokeswoman for Mr. Cheney, said that the vice president’s comment was taken out of context, and that he was addressing policy differences. "Whoever is elected is going to face the prospect of another terrorist attack,’’ Ms. Womack said. “The question is whether we will have the right policies in place to protect our country.” \* * * * So. The time-honored startegy of the Bush Administration continues. Drop remarks like this about the opposing candidate to sow doubt in the impressionable, often willingly uninformed minds of the undecideds; then order your mouthpiece to strike a cowardly disingenuous stance of _oh, he didn’t mean that. You’re taking it out of context._ Dirtbags. My country is currently run by a gang of dirtbags. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheney-terror-attack-if-kerry-elected/263556.md?page=3)