# Cherry Hill, NJ

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 3, 2001, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236 "2001-11-03T00:58:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Jinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jinx)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/1 "2001-11-03T00:58:05Z")

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Does anyone know of a rabbi ;j in Cherry Hill, NJ who is up on criminal charges - and they’re going for the death penalty? What’s the scoop here?

- Jinx

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**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/2 "2001-11-03T01:16:01Z")

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[Bail set for two in rabbi case](http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/05/03/front_page/JRABBI03.htm)

[Rabbi case similar to 1984 N.J. murder](http://www.southjerseynews.com/neulander/m052100b.htm)

[He acts unlike a suspect.](http://www.americanmafia.com/News/5-4-00_Unlike_A_Suspect.html)

[Final potential juror picked in murder trial](http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:giFclfB2PDk:www.courierpostonline.com/news/southjersey/m100401i.htm+Cherry+Hill,+NJ+rabbi+criminal&hl=en)

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2001, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/3 "2001-11-03T01:32:19Z")

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yep, forget anthrax, rabbi fred j. neulander is the big story in the del. valley right now.

carol neulander was the rabbitzen (sp?) who was blugdeoned to death on nov. 1st, 1994. she was found by her husband.

before she was killed she was on the phone with her daughter when the doorbell rang, when she looked out she said to her daughter “it’s the bathroom man.” her killer had been out at the house before to “deliver” an envelope for her husband, and asked to use the bathroom at that time. she was on the phone with her daughter that time as well. so there is no doubt who actually committed the murder.

what the rabbi is accused of is paying the murderers to do the deed. that he contracted the murder of his wife. this is a capital offense in nj. the rabbi’s defence team is contending that it was a botched robbery; not a hit by 2 men hired to make it look like a robbery.  
len jenoff and paul daniels are the men who killed carol neulander.

the pa is going with: the rabbi had a torrid affair with elaine soncini and wanted his wife out of the way. he did not believe that he would be able to stay on at congregation m’kor shalom if he were divorced. so he paid jenoff a man he counseled and befriended to kill his wife.

still confused? try [http://www.philly.com](http://www.philly.com) it has been frount page news for the last week.

the son and daughter are the tragic figures here, (along with their mother) the daughter was on the phone with her and heard her let the murderers in. the son was on the paramedic team that responded to the 911. this has been very difficult for them.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/5 "2013-04-29T09:47:07Z")

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reported

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/6 "2013-04-29T11:59:14Z")

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It’s a great place minus the sociopathic rabbis.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/7 "2013-04-29T12:47:31Z")

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Despite what was in _Harold and Kumar go to White Castle_, there are no cliffs in Cherry Hill. No White Castle either.

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**Author:** ![robert\_columbia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@robert\_columbia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robert_columbia)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/8 "2013-04-29T14:17:33Z")

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> [@fruxigesan](#):
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> [spam quote removed]

Cherry Hill, NJ is nice, I know some people there.

Cherry Hill is very close to Camden, NJ, which isn’t so great.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/9 "2013-04-29T14:23:55Z")

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And I hear they have some really good locksmiths.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/10 "2013-04-29T15:26:26Z")

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> [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#):
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> And I hear they have some really good locksmiths.

Probably the last locksmith in the world that I would use is the asshole that resorts to spam to try and get business.

Hope the bastard goes out of business.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/11 "2013-04-29T15:30:02Z")

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They’ve got locksmiths all over the place, but just try to find a hill with cherries on it and see where that gets you.

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**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/12 "2013-04-29T15:41:04Z")

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and when you do find a hill with cherries and you go to pick some you find that you’ve locked yourself out of your car.

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/13 "2013-04-29T15:42:10Z")

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I’m finally related to someone celebrity-like enough to be mentioned on the boards. It turns out to be a sociopathic rabbi discussed in a zombie thread resurrected by a spambot.  
Thanks, Obama. :rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/14 "2013-04-29T15:58:41Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Probably the last locksmith in the world that I would use is the asshole that resorts to spam to try and get business.
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> Hope the bastard goes out of business.

Read the spam again. Note the mangled English and generic content. It’s probably a PR firm hired by the locksmith who’s farming out the spamming.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/15 "2013-04-29T16:29:06Z")

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runner pat:

> [@](#):
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> It’s probably a PR firm hired by the locksmith who’s farming out the spamming.

Rabbi hires hit men, locksmith hires a PR firm for spamming…does anyone in Cherry Hill do their own work?

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**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/16 "2013-04-29T16:42:31Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> Read the spam again. Note the mangled English and generic content. It’s probably a PR firm hired by the locksmith who’s farming out the spamming.

I just looked at the site. Looks like the locksmith is the scam.

> [@](#):
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> [name removed] must have the codes to the keys of your money lockers, cabin doors and other places in the warehouse as in case of key getting lost, one does not have to feel helpless, help from [name removed] is just round the corner. **Trusting key codes with others can lead to blasphemy, thus [name removed] is the best source to confide in.**

Could use a better translator.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/17 "2013-04-29T16:44:47Z")

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Since this is 12 year old thread raised by a spammer, I’m closing it.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/18 "2013-04-29T16:48:55Z")

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> [@robert\_columbia](#):
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> Cherry Hill, NJ is nice, I know some people there.
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> Cherry Hill is very close to Camden, NJ, which isn’t so great.

**Moderator Note**

Please don’t quote spam, especially including the link. It just makes clean-up more complicated. Thanks.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/19 "2024-04-21T02:03:24Z")

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/20 "2024-04-21T02:03:33Z")

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Thread re-opened by request.

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cherry-hill-nj/91236/21 "2024-04-21T02:19:18Z")

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Rabbi Fred Neulander has [died](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/fred-neulander-nj-rabbi-who-hired-2-men-to-kill-his-wife-dies-in-prison/3836716/)

Bumped to discuss the dead; it _really is_ a zombie
