# Chesebro,Powell and Others in Trump's Orbit **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 22, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920 "2023-10-22T13:52:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/21 "2023-10-22T16:05:32Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Or they thought that this was gonna be big payout. They would be some sort of hero, or very rich. Or, in a position of power in Trump’s administration when they helped him retain (or return to) power. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/22 "2023-10-22T16:08:52Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Chesebro had a pretty solid resume, and a good rep as a lawyer. He has a JD from Harvard, worked for Laurence Tribe, clerked for the federal judge who ruled for the Washington Post in the Pentagon Papers, and worked on _Bush v Gore_ for Gore. He was registered as a Democrat. > > Then in 2016 he re-registered as a Republican. > > I wonder what happened? It might be as simple as the fact that he got older (he’s now 62) and more successful, and decided that the conservative “I got mine” ethos fit better with where he was in life. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/23 "2023-10-22T16:11:16Z")
He seems to have been an enthusiastic Dem, though, supporting Obama, dissing Reagan, etc. One point the Wiki article mentions is that he’s from Wisconsin and he started supporting Ron Johnson in 2016. Maybe as simple as hitching his wagon to the rising star. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/24 "2023-10-22T16:32:33Z")
Just sounds like an opportunist to me. Also sounds… dumb. Anyone that would hitch their wagon to Trump has not done their homework. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/25 "2023-10-22T16:33:12Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Perhaps a complete blind spot when it comes to right and wrong? But they’re attourneys for crying out loud. Okay, this part made me laugh. Like lawyers have any better sense of morality than anyone else. Lawyers who do wrong may just be better at getting away with it, if they are any good at being bad. As for trump, he’s kind of a vacuum cleaner with no filter. Maybe that’s his appeal to people who, at some level, know they themselves are rotten, but who won’t be turned away from this president. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/26 "2023-10-22T16:36:23Z")
People admire bullies. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/27 "2023-10-22T16:38:11Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Chesbro, Powell, Rudy, and Pillow. They were all fairly successful in life and enthusiastically threw it all away for the likes of trump You can add Eastman. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/28 "2023-10-22T16:41:17Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Chesbro, Powell, Rudy, and Pillow. With apologies to [Shel Silverstein](https://genius.com/Shel-silverstein-ickle-me-pickle-me-tickle-me-too-annotated): _Powell and Chese, Lindell and Rudy_ _Worshipped a man malicious and moody._ _“Get on your knees: it’s your sacred duty!”_ _Cried Powell and Chese, Lindell and Rudy_ _Lindell and Chese, Rudy and Powell_ _Buttressed his bullshit, no matter how foul._ _“Parrot and praise every monkeylike howl!”_ _Sang Lindell and Chese, Rudy and Powell_ _Rudy and Powell, Chese and Lindell_ _Saw a few cracks in their pot’s thin shell._ _“Could we have been wrong? Not a chance in hell!”_ _Shrieked Rudy and Powell, Chese and Lindell._ _Powell and Rudy, Lindell and the Chese_ _Are starting to enter their guilty pleas._ _“No fair! You’ve driven us to our knees!”_ _Wept Powell and Rudy, Lindell and the Chese._ _And watching it all is one Donald J. Trump–_ _that flagrant fascist, that lying lump–_ _“You shouldn’t have trusted me. YOU’RE the chump!”_ _Sneered soon-to-be-felon Donald Trump._ ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/29 "2023-10-22T16:51:21Z")
And Jeffrey Clark. ETA: Very clever, @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/30 "2023-10-22T16:52:30Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > There was a Texas based group that had been pushing the “rigged election, voting machines flip votes, Venezuela, yada yada” theories for around 20 years….but until 2020 they had never been successful in their attempts to recruit a major losing candidate to claim fraud. > > Powell and Lin Wood had attended events held by this group, which originated the wackiest of the “rigged election” theories. But in the case of Powell, she ran for election to some office and lost. She misinterpreted some text she saw on a computer printout to the effect that the computer caused her to lose that election. That was her _gateway drug_ to rigged election conspiracy theories. Joining or going to these election conspiracy meetings would have been subsequent to that. Of course, if the computer _had_ caused that election loss, she certainly wouldn’t be able to discover it via something the computer said directly. If some miscreant did program the computer to do this, the last thing they would do is leave evidence that just anyone could find on a printout. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/31 "2023-10-22T16:58:00Z")
Powell bus-throwing is now complete. Apparently Trump on Truth Social is now saying that she never was his lawyer. (saw it on a news feed; I’m not about to go to TS to check it out myself) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/32 "2023-10-22T16:59:28Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > If some miscreant did program the computer to do this, the last thing they would do is leave evidence that just anyone could find on a printout. Sounds like typical conspiracy theory: find one unusual thing, and then everything else must be interpreted in light of that one thing. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/33 "2023-10-22T17:00:40Z")
For a certain subset of trumpists, it has to be that he locates their worst natures and makes them feel like it is not just okay to be unethical immoral flagrant liars, but glorious, a path paved in gold leading to paradise. He clearly has that effect on some people. It’s like the Two Minutes Hate – a completely acceptable way to give way to everything despicable inside. They don’t have to pretend any more. Except of course for trumpists, the hate never has to end. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/34 "2023-10-22T17:04:51Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Apparently Trump on Truth Social is now saying that she never was his lawyer. > > (saw it on a news feed; I’m not about to go to TS to check it out myself) @JohnT posted it to the Schadenfreude thread: > [@A Perfectly Reasonable Amount of Schadenfreude about Things Happening to Trump & His Enablers (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-perfectly-reasonable-amount-of-schadenfreude-about-things-happening-to-trump-his-enablers-part-2/984250/2638): > > Wow, never saw this coming! ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/35 "2023-10-22T17:13:15Z")
She probably lost it fair and square, and it could have all hinged on something relatively minor, such as no one wanting to hear her strangulated voice for x number of years. Voters are funny. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/36 "2023-10-22T17:19:20Z")
Had to go back to the Gotham City mugshots. Powell was Catwoman and Chesebro was Two-Face, which fits with him lawyerin’. Rudy as Penguin is still the best. > **[HappyToast (@IamHappyToast@mastodon.social)](https://mastodon.social/@IamHappyToast/110945719113485524)** > > Attached: 1 image > > Trump team Gotham mugshots Here’s the complete list, with pix: > **[Georgia mugshots: Trump and all 18 co-defendants surrender in election case](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/25/georgia-mugshots-trump-and-all-18-co-defendants-surrender-in-election-case)** > > Former US president and 18 co-accused meet deadline to surrender at Fulton County Jail on election interference charges. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/37 "2023-10-22T17:33:48Z")
N/M Mod note snuck in while editing. ---
**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/38 "2023-10-22T17:35:35Z")
🤣🤩💖💯😹👍👍👏👏👏 Ah thanks LHOD. You and Randy Rainbow give me brief moments of respite in this vale of tears! ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/39 "2023-10-22T17:35:58Z")
Moderating: The OP of this thread outlined a very narrow topic. Let’s try to stick to it as much as possible. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/40 "2023-10-22T18:13:30Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Okay, this part made me laugh. Like lawyers have any better sense of morality than anyone else. Wasn’t talking about morality, but law. They should understand just what kind of legal swamp that they are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920.md?page=3)