# Chesebro,Powell and Others in Trump's Orbit **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [October 22, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920 "2023-10-22T13:52:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/81 "2023-10-24T15:45:47Z")
I wonder if we could get Rudy to jump off a bridge, just to see who’d follow. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/82 "2023-10-24T16:54:14Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I wonder if we could get Rudy to jump off a bridge Shouldn’t be too hard. Just have a scantily clad 18 year old jump off with a bottle of gin. Rudy will be sure to follow. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/83 "2023-10-24T16:57:25Z")
> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#): > > It seems a new name needs to be added to the title of this thread: > > [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/24/trump-2020-lawyer-jenna-ellis-pleads-guilty-in-georgia-election-case-the-latest-to-flip.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/24/trump-2020-lawyer-jenna-ellis-pleads-guilty-in-georgia-election-case-the-latest-to-flip.html) I am NOT rewriting that poem. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/84 "2023-10-24T16:58:23Z")
> [@slicedalone](#): > > I just wish the “Christian” pleading would get her extra punishment, as in “As a Christian, you knew perfectly well that this act you were engaged in was immoral,” and the “Lawyer” pleading got her extra punishment, as in “As a lawyer, you knew perfectly well that this act you were engaged in was illegal.” Very much agree. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/85 "2023-10-24T17:05:44Z")
[Envoi.](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/learn/glossary-terms/envoi#:~:text=The%20brief%20stanza%20that%20ends,dedication%20to%20a%20particular%20person.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/86 "2023-10-24T17:08:30Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Another Trump lawyer pleading incompetence, I see. I am not a lawyer. My formal legal training consists of one quarter where I took Business Law in college. But even I know that the stuff they were doing was illegal. Surely a trained legal professional should know better than me. I think that the only plausible ignorance she can claim is that she thought they’d get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/87 "2023-10-24T17:14:29Z")
Slightly off-topic, but I wonder what the frankest guilty plea would look like. “Your Honor, I knew exactly what I was doing, and how illegal it was, but I was motivated by self-interest that overrode my good sense, I thought that if I was helpful in getting Donald Trump another term, however unearned it was, he would reward me materially with all sorts of career-advancements and I decided to roll the dice on his serving that second term.” In some senses, I don’t see where this would do her any harm, and a judge might look upon it as a refreshingly honest statement. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/88 "2023-10-24T17:40:13Z")
My prediction: All the defendants from Georgia will soon flip. Out of the initial 19, only about 5 will ever go to trial. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/89 "2023-10-24T18:04:17Z")
A lot of them certainly will but as time goes on, the deals will get shittier for them. When the deals stop happening, we’ll know that they have enough to for Trump to be well and truly fucked. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/90 "2023-10-24T18:07:04Z")
Ellis crowdsourced $213k for her legal defense before taking the plea. lmao > **[MAGA Diehards Are Furious Jenna Ellis Pleaded Guilty After Raising $200K](https://www.yahoo.com/news/maga-diehards-furious-jenna-ellis-173454254.html)** > > Jenna Ellis raised more than $216,000 in donations to fight her Georgia RICO indictment, then accepted a plea deal on Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/91 "2023-10-24T18:17:22Z")
I can understand their anger. I’ll still feel some schadenfreude, but I understand. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/92 "2023-10-24T18:27:35Z")
So she’s returning the $213k right? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/93 "2023-10-24T18:34:00Z")
Maybe she’ll donate it to the Brennan Centre: > **[Brennan Center for Justice | Home](https://www.brennancenter.org/)** > > Defend Democracy. Reform Justice. Protect the Constitution. The Brennan Center for Justice at NYU Law works to build an America that is democratic, just, and free. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/94 "2023-10-24T18:37:17Z")
Moderating: This thread has gone far afield from what the OP proposed to discuss. I’m locking the thread for now until I can hear from the OP – who, like me, apparently has had a busy morning keeping him away from the board – to see if he is agreeable to broadening the original topic he wished to discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/95 "2023-10-24T18:37:30Z")
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/96 "2023-10-24T21:31:12Z")
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/97 "2023-10-24T21:31:29Z")
After speaking with @enipla, he has agreed to slightly broaden the scope of this thread to include discussion of others in Trump’s orbit. The thread is reopened and retitled, but please be mindful to keep discussion within these boundaries. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/98 "2023-10-24T23:14:46Z")
Since the subject has been broadened……. I fully expect Mark Meadows to be next. It seems inevitable, I don’t see how he can simultaneously live the lie in GA and tell the truth in DC. I really hope the GA prosecutors insist on at least some jail time but I’m not sure they will. Mark probably has quite a bit of useful information, but the prosecutors have leverage, too. They know that, with his DC agreement, he has no defense left. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/99 "2023-10-24T23:40:10Z")
nvm,l ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920/100 "2023-10-25T00:01:54Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > [MAGA Diehards Are Furious Jenna Ellis Pleaded Guilty After Raising $200K](https://www.yahoo.com/news/maga-diehards-furious-jenna-ellis-173454254.html) Rubing the Rubes, vol. 6. Does the heart good. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chesebro-powell-and-others-in-trumps-orbit/991920.md?page=6)