# chess game: glee v Edward the Head **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 8, 2005, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990 "2005-02-08T14:03:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/61 "2005-02-16T14:11:45Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 I knew the castle was a mistake for that move. This should at least make things more interesting, for a couple of moves. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/62 "2005-02-17T01:10:06Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6\* \*In case people don’t know, this is the ‘en passant’ move. If a pawn (here on e5) can take an enemy pawn which moves one square forward (here meaning f6), then the same pawn can still capture if the enemy pawn moves two squares (here to f5). The ‘en passant’ move can only be made immediately (in reply to the enemy pawn move). The captured pawn is removed and the capturing pawn moves one square diagonally forward. (The other ‘special moves’ in chess are castling and pawn promotion.) > [@Edward The Head](#): > > I knew the castle was a mistake for that move. This should at least make things more interesting, for a couple of moves. You needed to castle soon anyway to bring your rook into play. This stuff is all standard in this opening. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/63 "2005-02-17T12:57:52Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 Was there another move for me instead of f7-f5? The only other one I could see was g7-g6. Though that didn’t seem to do much for me. This way, at least to me, let me have more pieces to hide behind. Also I will not be around this weekend, until next Wednesday so it’s most likely that I will not be able to move after tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/64 "2005-02-17T13:11:57Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 > [@Edward The Head](#): > > Was there another move for me instead of f7-f5? The only other one I could see was g7-g6. Though that didn’t seem to do much for me. This way, at least to me, let me have more pieces to hide behind. Also I will not be around this weekend, until next Wednesday so it’s most likely that I will not be able to move after tomorrow. The usual move is indeed g7-g6. It looks unattractive, because I can play Bc1-h6, gaining time by hitting your rook. However it blocks the position more effectively than f7-f5. ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/65 "2005-02-17T15:13:34Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/66 "2005-02-17T22:52:45Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 The opening phase of the game is over, and both sides have played competently. White has maintained the slight initial edge and could settle for capturing on e5 to leave Black with an isolated e-pawn. Although isolated pawns can be weak, this one would be reasonably well-placed in the centre. So White decides to play for tactics, offering the d-pawn as a sacrifice. Edward, I don’t know if you want me to just play on in this sharp position, but I am happy to do any or all of the following: - suggest three or four alternative moves for you now - draw your attention to the likely consequences of each such move - reveal my tactical plans Just let me know! ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/67 "2005-02-18T15:42:43Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 I think it would be interesting to see what you are thinking. Normally when I play I try and have some sort of plan, but I usually can’t see more then a couple of moves ahead as it still seems to be a bit much for me. I normally play someone around my own skills so I will sometimes attack and then wait for them to make a mistake. It would be helpful also to know what might happen on my moves, I can’t always see that either. However, unless there’s some obvious move that I’ve missed I think I can do without the moves for now. Right now I can tell you that I was going to play Bc8-g4, until I saw that the Knight on c3 is going to cause me problems. I don’t really see any other moves that will help me out right now. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/68 "2005-02-18T23:13:31Z")
> [@Edward The Head](#): > > I think it would be interesting to see what you are thinking. Normally when I play I try and have some sort of plan, but I usually can’t see more then a couple of moves ahead as it still seems to be a bit much for me. I normally play someone around my own skills so I will sometimes attack and then wait for them to make a mistake. > > It would be helpful also to know what might happen on my moves, I can’t always see that either. However, unless there’s some obvious move that I’ve missed I think I can do without the moves for now. Right now I can tell you that I was going to play Bc8-g4, until I saw that the Knight on c3 is going to cause me problems. I don’t really see any other moves that will help me out right now. Ah. Now I must tell you that one of my plans was to answer Bc8-e6 with Nf3-g5. This threatens both Bxh7+ (forcing Kg8-h8 - since Nf6xh7 allows Qh4xh7 checkmate!) and then having a powerful discovered check by moving the bishop back from h7; and Ng5xe6 winning a rook by forking your Queen and Rook. So you need to decide if you want to take your last move back, or struggle on for a few moves as per below. Your main alternatives to Bc8-g4 are: - e5xd4 - Nc6xd4 - h7-h6 I can analyse these further if you do wish to change your move. glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2005, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/69 "2005-02-20T19:11:53Z")
Bump. (Sorry Edward, I’m not clear when you are away until…) ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/70 "2005-02-23T13:30:46Z")
I’m back this morning. I just flew in on the red-eye from LA to DC so you’ll have to give me a bit to look over the board, but I’ll be back. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/71 "2005-02-23T15:11:47Z")
> [@Edward The Head](#): > > … I’ll be back. Have I heard that phrase somewhere before? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2005, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/72 "2005-02-23T19:01:38Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/73 "2005-02-24T15:18:47Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 16. Bd3xh7+ ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/74 "2005-03-01T19:23:32Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 16. Bd3xh7+ Kg8-h8 Sorry, I’ve been sick lately. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2005, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/75 "2005-03-02T15:37:15Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 16. Bd3xh7+ Kg8-h8 17. Bh7-f5+ > [@Edward The Head](#): > > Sorry, I’ve been sick lately. Hope you’re feeling better! ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/76 "2005-03-04T21:20:52Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 16. Bd3xh7+ Kg8-h8 17. Bh7-f5+ Kh8-g8 You know I had this move the other day and didn’t post it. Wonder what’s up with that. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2005, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/77 "2005-03-04T22:42:34Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 16. Bd3xh7+ Kg8-h8 17. Bh7-f5+ Kh8-g8 18. Bf5xe6+ ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/78 "2005-03-07T14:11:03Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 16. Bd3xh7+ Kg8-h8 17. Bh7-f5+ Kh8-g8 18. Bf5xe6+ Nd4xe6 ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/79 "2005-03-08T10:15:45Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 16. Bd3xh7+ Kg8-h8 17. Bh7-f5+ Kh8-g8 18. Bf5xe6+ Nd4xe6 19. Ng5xe6 ---
**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990/80 "2005-03-08T12:44:42Z")
glee Edward 1. e2-e4 c7-c5 2. c2-c3 Ng8-f6 3. e4-e5 Nf6-d5 4. d2-d4 c5xd4 5. Ng1-f3 e7-e6 6. c3xd4 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Nb8-c6 8. Bf1-d3 Bf8-e7 9. OO Qd8-c7 10. Qd1-e2 O-O 11. Qe2-e4 f7-f5 12. e5xf6 Nd5xf6 13. Qe4-h4 e6-e5 14. Nb1-c3 Bc8-e6 15. Nf3-g5 Nc6xd4 16. Bd3xh7+ Kg8-h8 17. Bh7-f5+ Kh8-g8 18. Bf5xe6+ Nd4xe6 19. Ng5xe6 Qc7-d7 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-glee-v-edward-the-head/288990.md?page=5)