# Chess game: Kythereia vs. glee **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 21, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199 "2005-02-21T17:02:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/81 "2005-03-05T10:19:27Z")
> [@Dubious Sacrifice](#): > > Wow, I don’t believe I have ever seen 2.e4 before. Dubious sacrifice indeed. 😉 > > Since this move is in no opening books that I know of, I hereby name this opening **The Kythereia Doper Attack**. > > 😃 The nearest opening is 1.d4 d5 2. e4 dxe4. It’s called the Blackmar-Diemar, and White gets some play for the pawn (but not enough to get Grandmasters to play it). There are some fine names of chess openings. My favourite is the Monkey’s Bum. :eek: It goes 1.e4 g6 2. Bc4 Bg7 3. Qf3 e6 4. d4!?. I have actually played this in an international event - and drew against a 2350! The name comes from a chap at the English chess club ‘Streatham & Brixton’. When they showed him the opening, he remarked “If that’s playable, I’m a Monkey’s Bum!” I’m afraid 1. d4 Nf6 2. e4 is just a dubious sacrifice. We can’t name it after a Doper. Hang on a minute… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Dubious\_Sacrifice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f08c70/32.png) [@Dubious\_Sacrifice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dubious_Sacrifice)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/82 "2005-03-05T16:35:36Z")
Yeah, but this ain’t no Blackmar-Diemar! BTW, glee, we played a BB game a couple years ago at James Randi’s site. You kicked my ass in 30-some moves; Sicilian Najdorf I believe. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/83 "2005-03-05T17:53:55Z")
Me? Judit Polgar? Judit Polgar would not make a ‘dubious sacrifice’ of her poor pawns, she would come out swinging and kick everyone’s arse at chess. Judit Polgar I am not. 😛 But it’s flattering to have such an… interesting… opening named after me 😃 _winks back at ronincyberpunk, smooches SiouxChief for such a wonderful compliment_ Enough kibitzing and schmoozing! Kythereia glee 1. d4 Nf6 2. e4 Nxe4 3. f3 Nf6 4. Nh3 c5 5. c4 cxd4 6. c5 Qa5+ 7. b4 Qxb4+ 8. Bd2 Qxc5 9. Nf4 Nc6 10. Nd3 Qb6 11. f4 d6 12. a4 e5 13. a5 Qc7 14. f4xe5 (my pawn on f4 captures your pawn on e5… is that the right way to write it?) ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/84 "2005-03-05T23:04:15Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > Me? Judit Polgar? > > Judit Polgar would not make a ‘dubious sacrifice’ of her poor pawns, she would come out swinging and kick everyone’s arse at chess. Judit Polgar I am not. 😛 > > But it’s flattering to have such an… interesting… opening named after me 😃 > > _winks back at ronincyberpunk, smooches SiouxChief for such a wonderful compliment_ > > Enough kibitzing and schmoozing! > > Kythereia glee > > 1. d4 Nf6 > 2. e4 Nxe4 > 3. f3 Nf6 > 4. Nh3 c5 > 5. c4 cxd4 > 6. c5 Qa5+ > 7. b4 Qxb4+ > 8. Bd2 Qxc5 > 9. Nf4 Nc6 > 10. Nd3 Qb6 > 11. f4 d6 > 12. a4 e5 > 13. a5 Qc7 > 14. f4xe5 (my pawn on f4 captures your pawn on e5… is that the right way to write it?) Yep that sure is how you do it, well done 😉 ---
**Author:** ![SiouxChief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/85 "2005-03-06T23:36:45Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > …smooches SiouxChief for such a wonderful compliment\* Wow! I must remember to compliment you more often!! Now, you must continue to lead glee into your trap… ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/86 "2005-03-08T10:19:28Z")
> [@Dubious Sacrifice](#): > > Yeah, but this ain’t no Blackmar-Diemar! > > BTW, glee, we played a BB game a couple years ago at James Randi’s site. You kicked my ass in 30-some moves; Sicilian Najdorf I believe. 😉 I have indeed played a few games at that site. But it couldn’t have been a Sicilian Najdorf - if I was White I play 2. c3 v the Sicilian and I don’t play the Sicilan as Black! What was your username there? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2005, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/87 "2005-03-08T10:20:57Z")
Kythereia glee 1. d4 Nf6 2. e4 Nxe4 3. f3 Nf6 4. Nh3 c5 5. c4 cxd4 6. c5 Qa5+ 7. b4 Qxb4+ 8. Bd2 Qxc5 9. Nf4 Nc6 10. Nd3 Qb6 11. f4 d6 12. a4 e5 13. a5 Qc7 14. f4xe5 d6xe5 Your notation was spot on - so my reply should make sense too! ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/88 "2005-03-16T22:13:11Z")
Hello? Anyone there? ---
**Author:** ![Greenback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2005, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/89 "2005-03-16T22:24:06Z")
Do you play by notation only **Glee**? Or do you have several boards on display or games saved with a chess program? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/90 "2005-03-18T13:36:13Z")
> [@Greenback](#): > > Do you play by notation only **Glee**? Or do you have several boards on display or games saved with a chess program? I can play just from the notation (known as blindfold chess). It took me a few years to learn, and is rather tiring, but very convenient. I have a couple of chess sets around the house - I would use them mainly when playing several games to make sure I don’t confuse them. ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2005, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/91 "2005-03-27T13:10:39Z")
Sooooooooo either of you going to pick this back up? Or did I miss something? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/92 "2005-03-28T23:49:25Z")
> [@ronincyberpunk](#): > > Sooooooooo either of you going to pick this back up? Or did I miss something? It’s her move - what can I do? I certainly don’t want to bump the thread twice, because the Mods ask us not to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2005, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199/93 "2005-03-29T00:36:50Z")
Very true glee, I should have specifically said ‘Kyth’ instead of either of you. My apologies. I’m just waiting to see how this plays out and see what I can learn from it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-kythereia-vs-glee/291199.md?page=4)