# Chess game: Lazlo vs. glee **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 11, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508 "2005-02-11T02:04:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/1 "2005-02-11T02:04:55Z")
Alright glee, I found my chessboard, pumped my psyche up and am ready to duel! Be gentle! Lazlo glee 1. e2-e4 Comments would be appreciated, especially on openings. I’m starting with the only opening I know. Cheerleading is encouraged. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/2 "2005-02-11T14:57:39Z")
Okay, It looks like **Malacandra** is going to fill in since **glee’s** already playng two games. I find the short notation **Mindwander** is using to be a bit confusing, so let’s stick with the longer style like in the **Edward the Head** thread. Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/3 "2005-02-11T15:54:07Z")
Here we go then: Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 **Mal** mirrors White’s opening move. There are a good many opening lines in which both sides push the king’s pawn two squares… let’s see what **Lazlo** feels like. (Long algebraic is just fine with me. I’m way short of **glee** ’s standard, but I can match him for notational fluency!) ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/4 "2005-02-11T16:11:09Z")
Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Well, e2-e4 is the only opening move I know, so I just usually wing it from there. 😃 I like getting my Horsies out early. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/5 "2005-02-11T16:16:49Z")
And why not? 2. Ng1-f3 has a long and distinguished pedigree. The bookies made it a slightly odds-on favourite. 🙂 The attack on Black’s e-pawn isn’t hugely significant yet; if it was still White’s move and he took it, Black could play …Qe7 and win it back. However, there is nothing much better than this: Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 Defending the pawn, and leaving White a choice of ways to continue. ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/6 "2005-02-11T16:28:43Z")
Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 One of the most common comments I get is, “I’ve never seen anyone do _that_ before.” Let’s see how long it takes before you at least think it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/7 "2005-02-11T16:36:38Z")
No, my comment this time is “How very 19th century”, 'cos we’re headed for the good old Four Knights Game here. 😃 Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 **Lazlo** ’s third move was unincisive, but by no means bad. The 4NG can be dull, though. Question is, who’s going to break the symmetry, and how? ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/8 "2005-02-11T16:51:14Z")
Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4. g2-g3 I don’t like confrontation. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/9 "2005-02-11T16:56:40Z")
Well I’ll answer my own question by breaking the symmetry: Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4. g2-g3 Bf8-b4 Don’t like confrontation? Many a respectable chess player has prospered by avoiding same. On the other hand, we need to toss in a little confrontation to please the crowd. Here you go. There’s be a short delay while I go off to my church choir practice… so make your next move a goodie, **Lazlo**. ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/10 "2005-02-11T17:28:07Z")
Hmm. Quite the pickle now. If I move that knight or allow it to be taken, that leaves you open for Nf6xe4. But are you the type that will sacrifice a bishop for a horsie? Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4. g2-g3 Bf8-b4 5. Bf1-d3 I’ll be gone for a few hours myself as I have some errands to run. I’ll see you later! ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/11 "2005-02-11T18:30:07Z")
Five moves and no captures yet? phhhh :goes to watch paint dry: ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/12 "2005-02-11T18:35:58Z")
Lazlo- Why not Nc3-d5? At worst you would be able to trade knights with black leaving his king side weak b/c of two pawns on the same file? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/13 "2005-02-11T18:37:48Z")
> [@Lazlo](#): > > Lazlo Malacandra > > 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 > 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 > 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 > 4. g2-g3 > > I don’t like confrontation. 😛 I recently saw this ultimate confrontation from your very position: 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4. g2-g3 5. … Nf6xe4?! 6. Nc3xe4 d7-d5 7. Nb1-c3 d5-d4 8. Nc3-e4 f7-f5 9. Ne4-g5 e5-e4 10. Bf1-c4 e4xf3 10, Bc4-f7+ ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/14 "2005-02-11T21:01:21Z")
Heh. I wasn’t after quite that much confrontation, **glee**. **treis** , after 5. Nc3-d5 and 6. Nxf6+ I could retake with the Queen. No doubled pawns and I’ve three pieces out to White’s one. By playing 5. Bf1-d3, my illustrious opponent has removed a lot of the point from his previous move (4. g2-g3). Also the bish on d3 is blocking the d-pawn and has reduced itself to being a “big pawn” for now. Not a losing disadvantage so far but there was probably better. The immediate threat of …Bxc3 and …Nxe4 wasn’t huge - White had Qe2, chasing the Knight away and winning the pawn back. Now what to do… Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4. g2-g3 Bf8-b4 5. Bf1-d3 d7-d6 Let’s let the other Bishop out. ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/15 "2005-02-11T22:29:30Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > By playing 5. Bf1-d3, my illustrious opponent has removed a lot of the point from his previous move (4. g2-g3). Also the bish on d3 is blocking the d-pawn and has reduced itself to being a “big pawn” for now. Yeah, I thought about that while I was running my errands. I should’ve moved d2-d3. A good many games I end up with messed up pawn positions. I need to study some openings. Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4. g2-g3 Bf8-b4 5. Bf1-d3 d7-d6 6. a2-a3 Let’s see what flogging the bishop does. _scrambles off to find another chessboard to play **glee’s** example_ ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/16 "2005-02-11T22:45:12Z")
> [@Lazlo](#): > > Let’s see what flogging the bishop does. I decline to rise to such a cheap feed line. 😃 1. d3 would have fitted in with the plan to put the bishop on g2, but tied the knight down for a move or two (because it could not move without exposing the King to check: a _pin_). But then the game’s all about choice, accepting one disadvantage for the sake of a counterbalancing advantage. I don’t particularly want to trade Bishop for Knight at this stage so I’ll have to move it somewhere else: Lazlo Malacandra 2. e2-e4 e7-e5 3. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 4. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 5. g2-g3 Bf8-b4 6. Bf1-d3 d7-d6 7. a2-a3 Bb4-a5 That’s me done for tonight (11pm local time). Catch you later! ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/17 "2005-02-11T22:52:00Z")
> [@glee](#): > > I recently saw this ultimate confrontation from your very position: > > 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 > > 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 > > 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 > > 4. g2-g3 > > 5. … Nf6xe4?! > > 6. Nc3xe4 d7-d5 > > 7. Nb1-c3 d5-d4 > > 8. Nc3-e4 f7-f5 > > 9. Ne4-g5 e5-e4 > > 10. Bf1-c4 e4xf3 > 10, Bc4-f7+ **glee:** I’m a bit confused at move 6. The knight was already moved out in move 3. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/18 "2005-02-11T22:54:57Z")
I think that should be: 6. Ne4-c3. ---
**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2005, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/19 "2005-02-11T23:07:53Z")
Hrm. I’m going to regret moving that bishop to d3. Is it a huge disadvantage to castle kingside without the bishop at g2? Lazlo Malacandra 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3. Nb1-c3 Ng8-f6 4. g2-g3 Bf8-b4 5. Bf1-d3 d7-d6 6. a2-a3 Bb4-a5 7. Qd1-e2 Have a good night! On preview. Thanks for the clarification on move 6. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2005, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508/20 "2005-02-12T10:24:30Z")
> [@Lazlo](#): > > **glee:** I’m a bit confused at move 6. The knight was already moved out in move 3. 😕 Sorry about that. :o What Malacandra said! 🆒 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-game-lazlo-vs-glee/289508.md?page=2)