# Chess: Glee v Chessic Sense **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** chess\ **Created:** [March 9, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264 "2012-03-09T14:07:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/21 "2012-03-15T14:21:59Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Sorry, muddled my threads. Though that Apronus game does seem to be broken now. Apronus? šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/22 "2012-03-15T14:27:27Z")
> [@glee](#): > > Apronus? šŸ˜• The game is at [www.apronus.com](http://www.apronus.com) ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/23 "2012-03-15T22:03:23Z")
1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 b6 6. f3 Ba6 7. e4 Nc6 8. Bd3 Na5 9. Qe2 Qc8 10. Nh3 c5 11. d5 e5 ((12. f4 d6 13. fxe5 dxe5)) I donā€™t see the danger here yet. Youā€™ll be able to make a protected passer, sure, but I think itā€™s overextended. I donā€™t see it marching anywhere anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/24 "2012-03-16T22:43:30Z")
1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 b6 6. f3 Ba6 7. e4 Nc6 8. Bd3 Na5 9. Qe2 Qc8 10. Nh3 c5 11. d5 e5 12. f4 d6 13. OO > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > I donā€™t see the danger here yet. Youā€™ll be able to make a protected passer, sure, but I think itā€™s overextended. I donā€™t see it marching anywhere anytime soon. There is danger (for both sides), but the d-pawn is not the threat (yet!) ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/25 "2012-03-17T03:56:36Z")
First, let me say thank you for playing this game against me. When I got married last year, life got too hectic for chess, and like most habits, when you stop itā€™s hard to get started again. Because of this game, I showed up at my local chess club, and ended up beating a player rated 150 point higher than me! So I now have the highest rating Iā€™ve ever had! Iā€™ll show you that game in a separate post. 1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 b6 6. f3 Ba6 7. e4 Nc6 8. Bd3 Na5 9. Qe2 Qc8 10. Nh3 c5 11. d5 e5 12. f4 d6 13. OO 13ā€¦Nb3 ((14. Rb1 Nxc1 15. Rfxc1 Qg4 16. Qxg4 Nxg4)) ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/26 "2012-03-17T04:03:12Z")
In the very first moves of the game, I said I have to attack the light squares and control the dark squares- that is, I want my pawns on the dark squares. So Iā€™ve taken my ā€œknight on the rimā€, as they call it, and traded it for Whiteā€™s good bishop Then Iā€™ve tried to undermine the control of the Whiteā€™s light squares by swapping queens. If **glee** refuses the trade, the queen will have trouble finding a good place to go. So assuming he trades, weā€™re not good bishop-bad bishop with White getting compensation in his extra space and open files for his rooks. My goal will thus be to crack open files for my rooks and eventually just attack the pawns while he defends them. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/27 "2012-03-17T04:28:41Z")
Hereā€™s the other game I won today: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Bc4 O-O 8.Ne2 c5 9.Be3 Qa5 10.O-O Nd7 11.Rb1 Qc7 12.Qc2 b6 13.e5 e6 14.Rfc1 Bb7 15.Ng3 Rac8 16.Ne4 cxd4 17.cxd4 Bd5 18.Nd6 Bxc4 19.Rb4 Nxe5 20.dxe5 Bxe5 21.Nxc8 b5 22.Nxa7 Bxh2+ 23.Kh1 Qe7 24.Rxc4 bxc4 25.Qxc4 Bd6 26.Nc8 Qd7 27.Nxd6 Qxd6 28.Bc5 \* ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/28 "2012-03-17T09:05:10Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Hereā€™s the other game I won today: > > 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Bc4 O-O 8.Ne2 c5 9.Be3 Qa5 10.O-O Nd7 11.Rb1 Qc7 12.Qc2 b6 13.e5 e6 > 14.Rfc1 Bb7 15.Ng3 Rac8 16.Ne4 cxd4 17.cxd4 Bd5 18.Nd6 Bxc4 19.Rb4 Nxe5 20.dxe5 Bxe5 21.Nxc8 b5 22.Nxa7 Bxh2+ 23.Kh1 Qe7 24.Rxc4 > bxc4 25.Qxc4 Bd6 26.Nc8 Qd7 27.Nxd6 Qxd6 28.Bc5 \* Quite the hiding. You were a bit ring-rusty last time I saw you. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/29 "2012-03-17T12:28:21Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > 13ā€¦Nb3 ((14. Rb1 Nxc1 15. Rfxc1 Qg4 16. Qxg4 Nxg4)) [GAME](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_e6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3_bxc3_b6_f3_Ba6_e4_Nc6_Bd3_Na5_Qe2_Qc8_Nh3_c5_d5_e5_f4_d6_O-O_Nb3) Just a noteā€¦ One can copy the moves from the form: 1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ ā€¦and paste that into the Box below the Absorb FEN/PGN button at [Chess Board Editor - Apronus.com](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php). Click the Absorb button and you have that game. CAUTION: If you enter moves the site doesnā€™t understand (OO rather than O-O for castling, for example) those moves are ignored. Since one side will often castle immediately after the other, the game will simply continue with both sides uncastled. Example: 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.g3 g6 3.Bg2 Bg7 4.OO OO 5.Nc3 Nc6 Illegal moves will throw a warning, but the above example is a PITA. ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/30 "2012-03-17T12:34:41Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Hereā€™s the other game I won today: [GAME](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_g6_Nc3_d5_cxd5_Nxd5_e4_Nxc3_bxc3_Bg7_Bc4_O-O_Ne2_c5_Be3_Qa5_O-O_Nd7_Rb1_Qc7_Qc2_b6_e5_e6_Rfc1_Bb7_Ng3_Rac8_Ne4_cxd4_cxd4_Bd5_Nd6_Bxc4_Rb4_Nxe5_dxe5_Bxe5_Nxc8_b5_Nxa7_Bxh2_Kh1_Qe7_Rxc4_bxc4_Qxc4_Bd6_Nc8_Qd7_Nxd6_Qxd6_Bc5) I made sure the castles were accurate! ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/31 "2012-03-18T21:24:15Z")
Glee Chessic Sense 1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 b6 6. f3 Ba6 7. e4 Nc6 8. Bd3 Na5 9. Qe2 Qc8 10. Nh3 c5 11. d5 e5 12. f4 d6 13. OO Nb3 14. Rb1 Nxc1 15. Raxc1 (if 15. ā€¦ Qg4 16. Rf3) > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > So Iā€™ve taken my ā€œknight on the rimā€, as they call it, and traded it for Whiteā€™s good bishopā€¦ Ah, now I would have described your Knight on a5 as ā€œA thing of beauty and a joy forever.ā€ Although any knight has less choice on edge of the board, in this game your knight was very safely placed and **attacking my weak pawn**. As itā€™s wasnā€™t clear how good by bishop on c1 was going to be, I would have kept the knight on the board! > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > let me say thank you for playing this game against me. When I got married last year, life got too hectic for chess, and like most habits, when you stop itā€™s hard to get started again. Because of this game, I showed up at my local chess club, and ended up beating a player rated 150 point higher than me! So I now have the highest rating Iā€™ve ever had! Iā€™ll show you that game in a separate post. Iā€™m delighted that your thirst for chess has been reawakened. šŸ†’ (The game you give was exciting, but Black just went too far by playing Nxe5ā€¦) ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/32 "2012-03-19T16:08:31Z")
[GAME](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_e6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3_bxc3_b6_f3_Ba6_e4_Nc6_Bd3_Na5_Qe2_Qc8_Nh3_c5_d5_e5_f4_d6_O-O_Nb3_Rb1_Nxc1_Rbxc1) ā€¦through move 15 (assuming move 14 for chessic sense) and amending move 15. for glee to R"_B_"xc1. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/33 "2012-03-20T21:14:55Z")
OK, **glee** , Iā€™m going to ask for help here. Iā€™m looking at: 1. - ``` Qg4 ``` 2. Rf3 Nh5 3. Rcf1 exf4 4. Nxf4 Nxf4 5. Rxf4 Qxe2 6. Bxe2 f6 7. Bh5+ Ke7 8. Be2 \* ā€¦which leaves me with two underdeveloped rooks but solid pawns and a nice-looking bishop to attack your three islands. I canā€™t tell whoā€™s wining this position. I also seeā€¦ 1. Rbxc1 Qg4 2. Rf3 Nh5 3. fxe5 dxe5 4. Rf5 ā€¦where Iā€™m losing a pawn to the zwischenzug Rxe5!. So what if I try to put my queen on a4? Well, you just calmly play Bc2 and Iā€™m kept out. So hereā€™s what Iā€™m thinking: I need to castle. Queenside would be better since you already have three pieces and an advanced pawn on the kingside along with an easily opened file. Iā€™m in a space crunch, but my pawns are healthier, so if I can trade knights and/or queens, Iā€™ll be better off. If I can restrict your pieces, thatā€™d be good, too. But how do I fight on the f file after the pawn trade? ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/34 "2012-03-20T22:10:56Z")
I hope this isnā€™t going too farā€¦ Iā€™ve linked the spurs that **CS** is asking about separately, within the quote. > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Iā€™m looking at: > > [15. Qg4 > 16. Rf3 Nh5 > 17. Rcf1 exf4 > 18. Nxf4 Nxf4 > 19. Rxf4 Qxe2 > 20. Bxe2 f6 > 21. Bh5+ Ke7 > 22. Be2](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_e6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3_bxc3_b6_f3_Ba6_e4_Nc6_Bd3_Na5_Qe2_Qc8_Nh3_c5_d5_e5_f4_d6_O-O_Nb3_Rb1_Nxc1_Rbxc1_Qg4_Rf3_Nh5_Rcf1_exf4_Nxf4_Nxf4_Rxf4_Qxe2_Bxe2_f6_Bh5_Ke7_Be2) > I also seeā€¦ > > [15. Rbxc1 Qg4 > 16. Rf3 Nh5 > 17. fxe5 dxe5 > 18. Rf5](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_e6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3_bxc3_b6_f3_Ba6_e4_Nc6_Bd3_Na5_Qe2_Qc8_Nh3_c5_d5_e5_f4_d6_O-O_Nb3_Rb1_Nxc1_Rbxc1_Qg4_Rf3_Nh5_fxe5_dxe5_Rf5) Iā€™m also including a clean, linked moves list with no move after RxN. [1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 b6 6. f3 Ba6 7. e4 Nc6 8. Bd3 Na5 9. Qe2 Qc8 10. Nh3 c5 11. d5 e5 12. f4 d6 13. O-O Nb3 14. Rb1 Nxc1 15. Rbxc1](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_e6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3_bxc3_b6_f3_Ba6_e4_Nc6_Bd3_Na5_Qe2_Qc8_Nh3_c5_d5_e5_f4_d6_O-O_Nb3_Rb1_Nxc1_Rbxc1) ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/35 "2012-03-20T23:25:23Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > OK, **glee** , Iā€™m going to ask for help here. Righty ho! > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Iā€™m looking at: > > 1. > - > > ``` > Qg4 > > ``` > > 2. Rf3 Nh5 > 3. Rcf1 exf4 > 4. Nxf4 Nxf4 > 5. Rxf4 Qxe2 > 6. Bxe2 f6 > 7. Bh5+ Ke7 > 8. Be2 \* > > ā€¦which leaves me with two underdeveloped rooks but solid pawns and a nice-looking bishop to attack your three islands. I canā€™t tell whoā€™s winning this position. After 20. Bxe2 f6, youā€™re fine. Although Iā€™m ahead in development, my rooks have no way in, my bishop is blocked and my c4 and e4 pawns are weak. Iā€™d much rather be Black in this position. > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > I also seeā€¦ > > 1. Rbxc1 Qg4 > 2. Rf3 Nh5 > 3. fxe5 dxe5 > 4. Rf5 > > ā€¦where Iā€™m losing a pawn to the zwischenzug Rxe5!. So what if I try to put my queen on a4? Well, you just calmly play Bc2 and Iā€™m kept out. Yes - well spotted on Rf5! when Iā€™m a comfortable pawn ahead. And note that if you play ā€¦ Qg4, but donā€™t play ā€¦ Nh5, I have the idea of f5 and Qe3, trying to trap your Queen. šŸ†’ If 15. ā€¦ Qd7, I can consider 16. a4. This prepares a5, giving me pawn levers on both sides of the board. (If 16. ā€¦ Qxa4 17. Ra1 wins a piece.) > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > So hereā€™s what Iā€™m thinking: I need to castle. Queenside would be better since you already have three pieces and an advanced pawn on the kingside along with an easily opened file. Iā€™m in a space crunch, but my pawns are healthier, so if I can trade knights and/or queens, Iā€™ll be better off. If I can restrict your pieces, thatā€™d be good, too. But how do I fight on the f file after the pawn trade? Well thatā€™s a lot to reply to! I agree you need to link your rooks (although in a blocked position like this, you can often get away with ideas like sending your king to c7.) Castling K-side is risking a big attack - whether I play fxe5 and use the f-file; or f5 and g4 with a pawn storm. Castling Q-side is safer - but I do have the a4-a5 ideaā€¦ **Of course** youā€™d like to trade Knights and Queens. (Sometimes you get kibitzers who say ā€œJust exchange piecesā€ - but they donā€™t tell you how. :smack: ) At present you have no hope of competing on the f-file. But I donā€™t have an immediate breakthrough there either. Hope this helpsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/36 "2012-03-20T23:26:51Z")
> [@SiXSwordS](#): > > I hope this isnā€™t going too farā€¦ > Iā€™ve linked the spurs that **CS** is asking about separately, within the quote. > > Iā€™m also including a clean, linked moves list with no move after RxN. Thatā€™s really helpful, especially for spectators without easy access to a board. Thanks! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/37 "2012-03-26T22:24:44Z")
1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3+ 5. bxc3 b6 6. f3 Ba6 7. e4 Nc6 8. Bd3 Na5 9. Qe2 Qc8 10. Nh3 c5 11. d5 e5 12. f4 d6 13. O-O Nb3 14. Rb1 Nxc1 15. Rbxc1 ā€¦Qd7. Iā€™m preparing to castle queenside and use my pawns as fighting pieces. My near-term goal is to find a way to make your bishop permanently bad. As it is now, the threat of fxe, making a passer, is still dangerous, so I want my queen where she can stop that threat the best. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/38 "2012-03-26T22:48:36Z")
Hereā€™s another interesting game from last Friday. At move 61, we both have under 5 minutes on our clocks and weā€™ve been at the board for almost 5 hours already. I stopped recording, so the moves arenā€™t perfect after that. No one hung any pieces, for example. I did win a pawn when he realized my knight had outmaneuvered his bishop and it couldnā€™t give either possible check safely. I like how my queen goes to d3 three times in the middle game and later, it combines with my other pieces to protect my exposed king from all fronts. ```auto 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 b6 3. Nc3 Bb7 4. Nf3 e6 5. Bg5 Be7 6. Qd3 d6 7. e4 Nbd7 8. Be2 O-O 9. O-O e5 10. Be3 Ng4 11. Rfd1 Nxe3 12. Qxe3 Bf6 13. d5 g6 14. b4 Bg7 15. Rac1 Nf6 16. c5 Ng4 17. Qd3 Bh6 18. Rc2 bxc5 19. bxc5 a5 20. cxd6 cxd6 21. Nb5 Nf6 22. Nd2 Ba6 23. a4 Rb8 24. f3 Nd7 25. Nc4 Nc5 26. Qa3 Bxb5 27. axb5 a4 28. Nxd6 Nb3 29. Nc4 Nd4 30. Rb2 Nxb5 31. Qd3 Nd4 32. Rdb1 Rxb2 33. Rxb2 Qa8 34. Ra2 Qa7 35. Kf1 Rc8 36. Bd1 Qe7 37. Rxa4 Qh4 38. Nxe5 Qxh2 39. Ng4 Qh1+ 40. Kf2 Bg7 41. Rxd4 h5 42. Ne3 Be5 43. Rc4 Rb8 44. d6 Bf6 45. Qd2 Bh4+ 46. Ke2 Qg1 47. d7 Kh7 48. Rc8 Qf2+ 49. Kd3 Qg3 50. Rxb8 Qxb8 51. Nc4 Qb5 52. Qc3 Qxd7+ 53. Qd4 Qb7 54. Qb6 Qe7 55. Qd6 Qa7 56. Bb3 Qg1 57. Ne3 Qb1+ 58. Bc2 Qb5+ 59. Nc4 Qe8 60. Qd5 Qe7 61. Nd6 f6 62. Qb7 Qxb7 63. Nxb7 Kh6 64. Nc5 Kg7 65. Ke3 Bg3 66. Nd3 Kh6 67. f4 Kg7 68. Kf3 Bh4 69. f5 g5 70. g3 g4+ 71. Kg2 Bg5 72. Nb4 Bh6 73. Nd5 Bg5 74. Bb3 h4 75. gxh4 Bxh4 76. Nc7 Kh6 77. Ne6 Be1 78. Bd1 Kh5 79. Nc5 Bc3 80. Nd3 Bb4 81. Kg3 Bc3 82. Bxg4+ Kh6 83. Nb4 Bd4 84. Nd5 Bb2 85. Nc7 Be5+ ``` ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/39 "2012-03-26T23:36:49Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > [Hereā€™s another interesting game](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_b6_Nc3_Bb7_Nf3_e6_Bg5_Be7_Qd3_d6_e4_Nbd7_Be2_O-O_O-O_e5_Be3_Ng4_Rfd1_Nxe3_Qxe3_Bf6_d5_g6_b4_Bg7_Rac1_Nf6_c5_Ng4_Qd3_Bh6_Rc2_bxc5_bxc5_a5_cxd6_cxd6_Nb5_Nf6_Nd2_Ba6_a4_Rb8_f3_Nd7_Nc4_Nc5_Qa3_Bxb5_axb5_a4_Nxd6_Nb3_Nc4_Nd4_Rb2_Nxb5_Qd3_Nd4_Rdb1_Rxb2_Rxb2_Qa8_Ra2_Qa7_Kf1_Rc8_Bd1_Qe7_Rxa4_Qh4_Nxe5_Qxh2_Ng4_Qh1_Kf2_Bg7_Rxd4_h5_Ne3_Be5_Rc4_Rb8_d6_Bf6_Qd2_Bh4_Ke2_Qg1_d7_Kh7_Rc8_Qf2_Kd3_Qg3_Rxb8_Qxb8_Nc4_Qb5_Qc3_Qxd7_Qd4_Qb7_Qb6_Qe7_Qd6_Qa7_Bb3_Qg1_Ne3_Qb1_Bc2_Qb5_Nc4_Qe8_Qd5_Qe7_Nd6_f6_Qb7_Qxb7_Nxb7_Kh6_Nc5_Kg7_Ke3_Bg3_Nd3_Kh6_f4_Kg7_Kf3_Bh4_f5_g5_g3_g4_Kg2_Bg5_Nb4_Bh6_Nd5_Bg5_Bb3_h4_gxh4_Bxh4_Nc7_Kh6_Ne6_Be1_Bd1_Kh5_Nc5_Bc3_Nd3_Bb4_Kg3_Bc3_Bxg4_Kh6_Nb4_Bd4_Nd5_Bb2_Nc7_Be5&n=0) Hope I got that rightā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264/40 "2012-03-26T23:47:05Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > 1.d4 Nf6 > 2. c4 e6 > 3. Nc3 Bb4 > 4. a3 Bxc3+ > 5. bxc3 b6 > 6. f3 Ba6 > 7. e4 Nc6 > 8. Bd3 Na5 > 9. Qe2 Qc8 > 10. Nh3 c5 > 11. d5 e5 > 12. f4 d6 > 13. O-O Nb3 > 14. Rb1 Nxc1 > 15. Rbxc1 > > [ā€¦Qd7.](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_e6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3_bxc3_b6_f3_Ba6_e4_Nc6_Bd3_Na5_Qe2_Qc8_Nh3_c5_d5_e5_f4_d6_O-O_Nb3_Rb1_Nxc1_Rbxc1_Qd7) [More to the pointā€¦](http://www.apronus.com/chess/wbeditor.php?m=d4_Nf6_c4_e6_Nc3_Bb4_a3_Bxc3_bxc3_b6_f3_Ba6_e4_Nc6_Bd3_Na5_Qe2_Qc8_Nh3_c5_d5_e5_f4_d6_O-O_Nb3_Rb1_Nxc1_Rbxc1_Qd7) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chess-glee-v-chessic-sense/615264.md?page=3)